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Just remove Karma
May 14, 2024, 16:49 (UTC)
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Last Edit : May 14, 2024, 16:49 (UTC)
# 1

Remove Karma from the game completely.  Make half the servers PvP enabled where you can flag up if you choose, and make the other half PvP disabled where you can't even fight between guilds at war.  See where the population falls.  

Last Edit : May 14, 2024, 17:07 (UTC)
# 2
On: May 14, 2024, 16:49 (UTC), Written by FearlessLy

Remove Karma from the game completely.  Make half the servers PvP enabled where you can flag up if you choose, and make the other half PvP disabled where you can't even fight between guilds at war.  See where the population falls.  

Above all, well geared players will choose to go where they can make more benefits. Between one threat only (ks) or two (owpvp and ks), the choice may be quickly made.

And it's not even related to the fact of liking owpvp or not, it's simply the path of the least resistance. Pvpve players do not have a fanatical obsession for owpvp, above all if this owpvp only comes with drawbacks and less money in the end. Owpvp is nice, it often brings an unexpected but pleasant change of pace in a boring grind in BDO, but if it only means less money in the end it will not be chosen. But that's bribery.

After all these years, devs should have noticed that seperating pve from pvp and even add pure pve settings did not bring the growth they were expecting. 

Last Edit : May 14, 2024, 17:26 (UTC)
# 3
On: May 14, 2024, 17:07 (UTC), Written by Sadalsuud

Above all, well geared players will choose to go where they can make more benefits. Between one threat only (ks) or two (owpvp and ks), the choice may be quickly made.

And it's not even related to the fact of liking owpvp or not, it's simply the path of the least resistance. Pvpve players do not have a fanatical obsession for owpvp, above all if this owpvp only comes with drawbacks and less money in the end. Owpvp is nice, it often brings an unexpected but pleasant change of pace in a boring grind in BDO, but if it only means less money in the end it will not be chosen. But that's bribery.

After all these years, devs should have noticed that seperating pve from pvp and even add pure pve settings did not bring the growth they were expecting. 

Don't disagree.  The problem is PA is trying to separate them without separating them.  The game as a whole is being made worse by their changes.  I would prefer they went back to the Karma system of 2016 before crystal breaking and downgrades only XP loss.  I would not mind if they went back to 2022 karma system.  The karma system seems like it is destroying the game more than anything right now.  

Last Edit : May 14, 2024, 18:19 (UTC)
# 4
On: May 14, 2024, 17:26 (UTC), Written by FearlessLy

Don't disagree.  The problem is PA is trying to separate them without separating them.  The game as a whole is being made worse by their changes.  I would prefer they went back to the Karma system of 2016 before crystal breaking and downgrades only XP loss.  I would not mind if they went back to 2022 karma system.  The karma system seems like it is destroying the game more than anything right now.  

Well, exp loss seemed clearly overtuned, it allowed some players to be a real nuisance.

For me, good penalties should be temporary, it should lock pkers on the channel, remove them from the spot when they get caught, and gradually weaken players when they get killed until they switch channels or until the death of their killer.

Last Edit : May 14, 2024, 21:39 (UTC)
# 5

their concern seems to be people repeatedly attacking the same person over and over and over... just make everywhere desert so people who flag get sent to jail instead of these pointless changes that do nothing but remove content.

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Last Edit : May 15, 2024, 02:54 (UTC)
# 6
On: May 14, 2024, 21:39 (UTC), Written by Feathery

their concern seems to be people repeatedly attacking the same person over and over and over... just make everywhere desert so people who flag get sent to jail instead of these pointless changes that do nothing but remove content.

I recommend designating servers 1-3 for traditional gameplay and servers 4-6 for PvP restricted gameplay. This structure allows for potential reversibility of PvP changes and provides the option for players who prefer to avoid PvP to easily switch to any of the 4-6 channels. While this may result in higher population density, the addition of the Marni Realm feature can help manage this issue.

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RosiIia
Last Edit : May 15, 2024, 22:28 (UTC)
# 7
On: May 15, 2024, 02:54 (UTC), Written by Zencia

I recommend designating servers 1-3 for traditional gameplay and servers 4-6 for PvP restricted gameplay. This structure allows for potential reversibility of PvP changes and provides the option for players who prefer to avoid PvP to easily switch to any of the 4-6 channels. While this may result in higher population density, the addition of the Marni Realm feature can help manage this issue.

I would think that the traditional gameplay servers would be overcrowded, rather than the PvP restricted servers.  Season servers are dead because no one wants to grind when someone can just walk into a rotation you are on and mess with you.  They are either in Marni or wont grind on seasons.

Last Edit : May 16, 2024, 09:58 (UTC)
# 8

Well, I would not consider restricted PvP to be the reason why season servers are empty. Season servers with limited gear are simply not as profitable as normal servers and the amount of season tickets is limited, so people usually just develop their season characters into alts, get the rewards, and then continue to play on normal servers for profit... like me. This takes 6 hours of gameplay max. And this is why season servers are empty. So I would not base the expectation that PvP restricted normal servers would be less populated on this observation.

Last Edit : May 16, 2024, 10:25 (UTC)
# 9

The concept of season servers looks good on paper but interest never lasts beyond a couple seasons due to a lack of a completely new and fresh experience. It just becomes another chore that is added onto a to-do list. With how much Black Desert has been improved for the new and early-game player (e.g 11 hours of Marni's Realm), season servers don't need to exist. The Tuvala gear progression system and other season server based systems could easily be integrated to function in the normal servers without the need for specialised servers.

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Violetta
Last Edit : May 19, 2024, 09:10 (UTC)
# 10
On: May 14, 2024, 16:49 (UTC), Written by FearlessLy

Remove Karma from the game completely.  Make half the servers PvP enabled where you can flag up if you choose, and make the other half PvP disabled where you can't even fight between guilds at war.  See where the population falls.  

sry but big no
If we were to have pure pve servers, then toxic ppl will grief to the absolute max cause there is nothing you can do about it.
So newer or lower geared players wont be able to grind in peace on pve servers due to toxic little ***** and they wont go to pvp servers cause they know they will be farmed.  So either way they will be ******

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