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16 pm cest today. Live stream (verdel82). 5-10 minutes will be enough. Your numbers are joke. 90 fails on grunil XD. If had 90 fails of grunils I could earn far more XD.
Numbers don't lie:
https://grumpygreen.cricket/bdo-failstack-chart/
You have almost unlimited chance for fail +13 +14 +15. So forced with 100% if you have them, forced with standard black stones so much much more of them and very high restore durability cost or fail, fail, fail.
16 pm cest today. Live stream (verdel82). 5-10 minutes will be enough. Your numbers are joke. 90 fails on grunil XD. If had 90 fails of grunils I could earn far more XD.
You keep claiming people don't understand math and than post this. I hope by this point any newbie with half a brain will realize you are utterly full of BS.
As for everone else...remember the advice wasn't just about grunil. The advice had other stuff in it. The grunil stuff was probably just a cover for the real objective...to try and offload blue ship gear would be my bet. Those things that nobody buys. I mean the green gear just makes for an easy discussion point because of how stupid the advice is...but it is just a cover for the real objective.
Maybe I will use others words: earn as you want but please don't tell us that your way is great.
I even made money catching yellow fish with triple rod from hot spot and selling it to the imperial.
Yes you have right that people are lazy, they buying green tri for easy and fast fs from devour system.
But it's ... dripping.
Are people idiots? Yes. As ColdNapalm said: blue ship gear. Who is buying ship gear since all gear that is needed (for higher ship tier) is not for sale.
Maybe you are filling a gap but for most players your items you sell are worthless and I would never buy them because how I make money: the most important rule: don't buy anything, do it yourself (except acc). Eg. I sell imperial boxes. Mats "for free" (not 100% free because CP cost and workers beer cost). Need utensil. I don't buy utensil. Log, rought stone - own gathering. Summary when I sell imperial box 99% from box it's earnings.
This thread is testament to how stupid the ridiculous pay2win-deniers really are.
In a game where IRL money translates directly to power they still deny it.
This time the argument is: "It isn't pay2win because you can make money doing other things, herpa derpa!"
Congratuations OP, yours is the dumbest pay2win denier argument i've heard yet.
This earning scheme inherently relies on a few factors:
A. Enough stupid people to buy Pri green items
B. Enough supply of green base items for said stupid people to buy Pri green items
C. The prices of enhancement mats (mostly blackstones in this case)
Are these currently plausible income methods? Perhaps, if one has a sufficient supply of blackstones, and there are enough stupid people buying Pri greens.
Would this income method in any way shape or form be consistent (both with regards to rng, blackstone prices and the amount of stupid people)? No, it would not.
Finally, lets throw in some math:
We will be attempting to make a profit enhancing Grunil helmets (a quasi-viable item, sorta), to PRI
We will not be forcing any enhancements, and repairing with other base grunil helmets (no artisans).
We will not use any FS for +0->+13
Grunil helmet price (EU): 530.000
Black Stone Armour price: 111.000
0 -> +6 (~100% success rate) cost: 1.196.000
Market value: 710.000
Profit: -486.000
0 -> +13 (+7: 25.64%, +8: 17.24%, +9: 11.76%, +10: 7.69%, +11: 6.25%, +12: 5.00%, +13: 4.00%)
Fails: 3, 5, 8, 13, 16, 20, 25 (All values rounded down)
Total: 90 fails~
Market value: 23.100.000
Cost: 9.990.000 (Blackstones) + 450 Durability to be recovered (45 helmets: 23.850.000) = 33.840.000
Profit: -10.740.000
+13 -> PRI (+14: 5.72%, +15: 4.00%, PRI: 23.52%)
Lets assume we throw some 'worthless' 10 stacks at this
Fails: 17, 25, 4
Total: 46
Market value: 40.400.000
Cost: 33.840.000 (+13) + 5.106.000 (stones) + 12.190.000 (repairs) = 51.136.000
Profit: -10.736.000 (Hurrah you earned back 4k)
Now if you start pushing for TRI etc, you start calculating in failstack costs, concentrated stones, failures resetting progress etc etc.
At the end of the day even if you were rather lucky (as I am for example), this is not a consistent means of earning silver.
It is gambling (with better rates than irl casinos tbf).
hmm ya know you can get guaranteed 100% enchant for +13 ~ +15 using those boss enchant stones that drop from world bosses? Just store them up by doing bosses whenever they spawn...
hmm ya know you can get guaranteed 100% enchant for +13 ~ +15 using those boss enchant stones that drop from world bosses? Just store them up by doing bosses whenever they spawn...
Yeah that way you might can sell one PRI grunil every week if you run every boss that spawn lul, what a fourtune making like 20m every week :DDDDD
You can make money by the way op claims he can... the issue is that it's pocket change if you calculate the value chains properly, and even the damand is heavily limited. As long as basically noone bothers with it, you might be avalible to sell like 10 daily, but what if 5players think that this is a good idea? You will quickly see how profitable it is at min price...
Hi.
First my english is not good so please dont qq about it.
I play BDO from beta with few brakes. On 1st december 2020 I came back to BDO again. Start with only 300 millions silver with no gear, horse, etc. After some research on market i find out that u can make billions of silver a day with no risk. Funny thing is that I used that method last time too.
So what method is this? Noone will tell you that on forum except me ofc. XD cause I dont care about others who is doing that from first day (or maybe earlier) of new market. I wont describe details about it just give You simple example what can You do. I play on EU server dont know what ptice are on US.
So.
Ex.1
Buy 20 grunils (550k or so atm on MP), buy some black stones and just click to +13 (23 mil or so atm.). Ez silver. U can go for pri or duo if You like.
Ex. 2
Buy a lot of cheap same weapon, sub-weapon or armor. Then just click them to pri duo, tri. Ez silver. Use failstacks from these weapons to updrade another one to pri, duo, tri, etc.
Ex.3
When You rich higher fs like 30 or so u can make another simple things like blue horsegear, blue ship parts (see differnce between +5 and +6 XD, also u dont need to buy on +0 you can buy it already on +5 with 10 mil diff ;)).
Also with a lot of 20 fs u can make silver life cloths to +2 when on 30 fs or more click it to +3 ( and again see price difference between +0, +1, +2, +3;)).
Simple???
There is a lot things You can do just watch matket and prices. You dont need to be Boirghan or Biohack to make few bills a day. With these simple methods i earned more than 350 bill till this day. I tried grind (hadum castle), life skills (+1800 mastery gather) and every those things are garbage compare to enchanting. And please dont argue with me just test by yourself.
Again sorry for bad english. And hope I help someone here. If You want I can stream (verdel82) this method for you if proof is need it. Cya cheers.
Thinking does not hurt XD.
This thread is testament to how stupid the ridiculous pay2win-deniers really are.
In a game where IRL money translates directly to power they still deny it.
This time the argument is: "It isn't pay2win because you can make money doing other things, herpa derpa!"
Congratuations OP, yours is the dumbest pay2win denier argument i've heard yet.
Once again, buying costumes and selling it for silver is NOT P2W. It is P2C. Just because something is P2W doesn't mean it is bad nor is something that is P2C fine or good. A game that has a P2W item i.e. ONLY can get via buying with real money that boost your stats .01% and it costs $1 is not a bad thing...like at all. Yes, technically, the game is P2W because you have an item that you MUST spend cash on...but so what? The effect and cost is so small that it doesn't matter. You can have a classical P2C model where you can buy an exp boost that gives you 1000000% exp for a day for $1000...and that would be a problem...despite it being the classic P2C. P2W does not mean what you think it means (i.e. anything a company does that I do not like).
One great thing about bdo are the possibilities in making silver. Biohack is a great example. I will not comment on the OP's strategy, but will say that enhancing for profit is not easy. It takes loads of time and silver investment + expert level math skills, for it to be truly for profit. Rng is too unpredictable, but if you're like Salt or Biohack, maybe you can figure it out, but for most people and me (mere mortals), I do an enhancing for "income" (or outgo lol) strategy that is small scale, relatively low risk, but relatively low reward. But if done consistently, you can build up silver over time, complimenting your normal gameplay.
Invest in boss gear:
Purchase/farm about 5 base boss gear items.
Purchase 2-3 +13 - +15 boss gear items
Purchase 3-5 PRI boss gear items
Have your +14 Reblaths and +14 green gear
Enhance the bases. Follow a failstacking guide for the FS ranges to use for enhancement levels
When reaching 20 FS, use the +13 - +14 boss gears to push to 25 or 30 FS
With 25 - 30 FS, start slamming on the PRI's
Make multiple DUO boss gears
TRI roulette starting at 35 or 40 FS, capping TRI attempts at 50 FS
Make multiple TRI boss gears
TET roulette starting at 60 FS or higher, capping TET attempts at 100 - 110 FS
Sell boss gear at TET
Save 100+ FS for PEN attempts or TET gold accs
Gamble on gold accs in between if you're daring
(Personal thing: If I reach 1 billion in warehouse, I move it to storage and don't touch it. Build warehouse silver up to another billion, rinse repeat, using leftover silver for material purchases or buy boss gears/accs/elixers and stuff)
You'll amass tons of stacks this way. So if you have an excess of 50's, like a crap load of em, I wouldn't be squeamish about trying TRI on a 50 up to 60. But only if having an excess, high stacks are valuable and a 50-60 is a overstack, but then again, you play the game so use your discretion here. It's not efficient, but I make so many 50 FS it's like "sacrificial lamb, you are!" Lol.
This is not at all efficient, I'm sure lol. But personally, I do this because I enjoy enhancing (for gear I won't wear lol) and this lets me tickle the gambling itch while not risking all my silver at once. It can steadily build silver over time, or, be a loss. Average, I'd say it equals out over time, but take this with a grain of salt because I didn't do any math calculations lol. This is just purely for enjoyment and hopefully making a profit. Maybe it can work for others like it works for me.
Invest in boss gear:
Purchase/farm about 5 base boss gear items.
Purchase 2-3 +13 - +15 boss gear items
Purchase 3-5 PRI boss gear items
Have your +14 Reblaths and +14 green gear
Enhance the bases. Follow a failstacking guide for the FS ranges to use for enhancement levels
When reaching 20 FS, use the +13 - +14 boss gears to push to 25 or 30 FS
With 25 - 30 FS, start slamming on the PRI's
Make multiple DUO boss gears
TRI roulette starting at 35 or 40 FS, capping TRI attempts at 50 FS
Make multiple TRI boss gears
TET roulette starting at 60 FS or higher, capping TET attempts at 100 - 110 FS
Sell boss gear at TET
Save 100+ FS for PEN attempts or TET gold accs
Now add up the cost of items, black stones, concetrated black stones, memory fragments and 35% mp tax.
Summary: you have earned as much as nothing.
I counted various items many times. The effect was always the same: you will only earn money if you are very lucky. Period.
You want fast easy money? Buy hundreds loggia acc and enchant them. At the end you will have 2 tri and 10m profit after deducting costs.