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You can't just slam the pandora's box you opened shut again with Karazad the way you are implementing them, PA
Oct 4, 2024, 21:29 (UTC)
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Last Edit : Oct 7, 2024, 09:12 (UTC)
# 1

Karazad accessories are a good concept.  The way you are implementing them right after the poor reception of Sovereign weapons is not good, however.  We do not need even more veritcal progression so shortly after a massive vertical progression in the form of the weapons.  The additional time sink of horizontal progression to get gems for these new accessories is more than enough added progression.

You are in desperate need of some good will right now.  First and foremost, PEN Debo should = X Karazad.  Tet should = VII.  We don't need more AP.  We don't need more imbalance.  We don't need more crontent.  If you want these to act as Godr Ayed for debo, fine, but don't add MORE grind. 

Second, the damage is already done on the market.  Players lost all the value on their accuracy and evasion items when you killed those stats.  Many already sold theirs at rock bottom prices when you forced deboreka down our throats.  You can't fix that by suddenly making them necessary again.  Do you know how awful it's going to feel for someone who sold a lunar neck at 10b see it theoretically go back up to 100b?  Now they need that AND an increased price debo.  That is the case for just about EVERY accuracy, evasion and some DR accessories. 

Feedback:  X Karazad should only be the same stats as current PEN Debos.  If you want this system where you melt pen accessories into gems, ALSO add an alternative way to make these gems that costs max 30-50B per gem so that people who sold their accessories that had already been made worthless aren't entirely fucked over by this. 

We're talking a theoretical difference of an additional 500+ billion silver between someone who bought an accuracy set at rock bottom versus someone that would have to get them if the prices go back to 100b+.  Some people would get double-dip-punished if they bought accuracy at previous prices, lost all that value when they were made worthless, and will then have to buy them back higher again.

You will fix your game by actually fixing your game, not just adding more grind.

p.s.: How about go after some low-effort, low-hanging fruit to build back some good will instead of trying to sneak in more greedy shit?  You realize your game is dying, right? 

Here are a few:

*Add another tag slot or two. 

*Add some real rewards to aos and rbf (revamp the queue ui and add maps btw) so people can PvP outside of dead node wars at a single time during the night. 

*Make duo and trio grind spots across all gear levels. 

*Fix passives--you tried to make gear a choice but "forgot" that some classes get 40-60 DR for free or have 10%+ eva passives etc. 

*Rework shai for the sake of both shai players and everyone else, them being mandatory for everything blows. 

*Have J step down or announce that he'll be delegating heavily and taking a less hands-on approach himself (people will come back from TL to BDO just for this one). 

You can spend a year kicking rocks and making an empty loml 2 but not a week on any of the above, lame--you're not sharing your culture, you're making people dislike it with how you behave.. nobody is thinking about your cool folklore; only about how you seem to be greedy.  You shame Korea to the eyes of the rest of the world.

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Last Edit : Oct 5, 2024, 09:49 (UTC)
# 2

Hardcapped super-endgame players (a small percentage of the playerbase) ask for more hardcore challenges. PA gives them a massive cronsink.

Last Edit : Oct 5, 2024, 12:06 (UTC)
# 3
On: Oct 4, 2024, 21:29 (UTC), Written by Mlem

Sigh.  Here we go again.  Please listen, PA "we couldn't foresee this coming with how Sovereigns played out"--anyone actually playing your game did see it coming, so maybe listen to us.

Thren what would be the point of even releasing this gear?

On: Oct 4, 2024, 21:29 (UTC), Written by Mlem

 You shame Korea to the eyes of the rest of the world.

Lolol... hyperbolic much?

Yes, i base all my opinions of South Korea on how PA runs BDO. Absolutely. 200%,

Last Edit : Oct 5, 2024, 12:08 (UTC)
# 4

I agree about more tagging though. Especially allow us to tag more than one pair of chars together.

Last Edit : Oct 5, 2024, 21:52 (UTC)
# 5
On: Oct 5, 2024, 12:06 (UTC), Written by CillianRaynor

Thren what would be the point of even releasing this gear?

Lolol... hyperbolic much?

Yes, i base all my opinions of South Korea on how PA runs BDO. Absolutely. 200%,

It's a reference in regards to how they believe they are doing some great cultural sharing with their land of morning light expansions, but 99% of people just R spam through (or have quit the game by now) due to the content itself being uninteresting, greedy monetezation and poor development of both PvE and PvP.

Suffice it to say, Korean games and developers certainly have a reputation that PA has done nothing but to cement.  Nobody is saying they aren't allowed to make money.  Hell, they'd be making more money if they weren't acting so deaf and incompetent that many of their paying players are leaving. 

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Last Edit : Oct 6, 2024, 04:32 (UTC)
# 6
On: Oct 4, 2024, 21:29 (UTC), Written by Mlem

*Rework shai for the sake of both shai players and everyone else, them being mandatory for everything blows. 

100%

right now the game is SHAI desert online.

Last Edit : Oct 7, 2024, 21:28 (UTC)
# 7

With all the absurd amount of DR they added into the game, we all definitely need more ap. Evasion and accuracy are dead because of how overpowered they made dr builds (and by extension, tank classes) and by how ineffective they made evasion builds.

Adding more vertical progression isn't the issue with the game right now. The problem is there's nothing worthwhile to do with it. Adding more circles or making you go faster in your current circles doesn't do anything for the game. Killing your pvp content by making garbage changes to the large scale format, and even worse, bad changes to the balance worsens the game. It's been 8 years of this crap, and people are tired of it. The first week of TNL was very refreshing because I was doing something other than killing reskinned mobs to progress. Too bad the combat sucks and it just makes me yearn for the days of Tera, which played like a MMO with good content but also had great combat on top of it. It really sucks that BHS were just as incompetent as PA and botched a great mmo.


But yeah. I can certainly agree with your suggestions for changes at the bottom. Shais would hate it, but they really should just remove all combat and support capability from the class. Make it the premier lifeskilling class and release the rework with some massive lifeskill update so the lifeskillers can get their dopamine fix by printing money with their shai.

Last Edit : Oct 7, 2024, 21:34 (UTC)
# 8
On: Oct 7, 2024, 21:28 (UTC), Written by Xenon

With all the absurd amount of DR they added into the game, we all definitely need more ap. Evasion and accuracy are dead because of how overpowered they made dr builds (and by extension, tank classes) and by how ineffective they made evasion builds.

I............... I get what you're saying.. but you know they could've just.. not added so much DR, right?  Or roll it back if it was a bad choice?  Making an issue and telling people to grind out the solution when everyone is sick of grinding when there is not content to use it in makes less than zero sense.  They're already adding horizontal progression with Karazad.  They don't need to double dip and add both horiz and vertical.

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Last Edit : Oct 8, 2024, 02:01 (UTC)
# 9
On: Oct 5, 2024, 12:06 (UTC), Written by CillianRaynor

Thren what would be the point of even releasing this gear?

Lolol... hyperbolic much?

Yes, i base all my opinions of South Korea on how PA runs BDO. Absolutely. 200%,

You don't have to base everything on PA.  Perhaps you could do just 50% then base the other half on NCSoft which is even more greedy and possibly holds the world record for most aggrecious unplayable monetization.

NCSoft - What's that you can't even kill mobs within your level range because you didn't spend $1,000's on the cash shop.  Awe that's to bad in our advertised "truly free to play model".

NCSoft - Just toughen up and kill lower mobs since your broke boy can't afford it.  Oh whoops that's right we give you NO credit for those mobs, awe that's to bad.

NCSoft - What's that?  You are killing level 40 mobs and getting ONE gold?  I guess you should go to the cash shop and PAY to get actual drops.

NCSoft - Oh you paid $4,000 and got 1 shot for 2 million damage?  Guess you need to pay a lot more.

NCSoft - What's the matter?  The fact that you would need to grind for literally 1,000's of years 24/7 to even do end game content by de leveling your characters in an infinite loop just just to make minimal trash?

NCSoft - Just git gud and farm harder!!! Oh whoops all those items are NOT in the game drop tables they are cash shop only WHOOPSIES!

Those are NOT exaggerations or made up.  They are REAL EXAMPLES.

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