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# 41
On: Apr 19, 2021, 21:55 (UTC), Written by PlasticDK

You are like those guys who are smashing their iphones (purchased by their own money) to show how much they not like apple?

"I don't liek what you do, so I gonna hurt myself to show it".

Thsi is just attentionwhoring, nothing else.

 

If you really want to show them, then stop playing the game. Though I doubt they care, the game is in the last milking phase anyway...

Wrong I do not have an iphone. Wrong because I am not hurting myself in any way by not buying pearl  items from the cm. This is a game and a never ending one at that. I have no need to fast track what I do and if I want a value pack I will buy pearls to get one. You on the other hand bitch about pay to win and then do almost anything to ensure that it never goes away. IDGAF if you think I am attention whoring because IDGAF what you think about me.

Last Edit : Apr 20, 2021, 02:33 (UTC)
# 42
On: Apr 19, 2021, 23:13 (UTC), Written by Retteo

"Even most spenders will still place a bid on this."

 

A smarter person would have concluded that "most" doesn't include "all".  Thus "some" spenders will not place bids.

 

Did you miss this statement INTENTIONALLY TOO

"While not every player will have a bid on a VP, it does cover the vast majority of players."

 

It's almost like you are TRYING to fail ;)

A smart player will not have a preorder on a value pack up at all times because that precludes them from preordering costumes which are far more important for their gear development. There a a lot of ways to make silver without reliance on the cm. The problem here is that you dislike being told you are wrong and in this instance you are definitely wrong.

Last Edit : Apr 20, 2021, 02:54 (UTC)
# 43
On: Apr 16, 2021, 16:15 (UTC), Written by Retteo

Actually, the OP didn't state an opinion about the health of the game, but rather raw data and facts.

It was only your own bias and insecurity that lead to you to make that statement ;)

 

Summary

The amount of Pre Orders on a Value Pack are quite a good indicator of how many people are playing the game.  It's a rough estimate, but again It's a good metric for player count.  It very likely there are far less than 10,000 active players on NA.

You constantly claim BDO is such a bad game, and here you are saying there are only 10k players on NA, in another obvious attempt to say that BDO is a dead game.

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# 44
On: Apr 19, 2021, 21:48 (UTC), Written by Altos

You with your last sentence have just explined so clearly why selling pearl items in the cm makes this game so pay to win.

 

Not really, the only way that would work is if someone buys pearl items off the pearl shop with the intended purpose of melting said item to try and enhance with.  Cron stones just are not worth RL money or in game Silver unless you are enhancing deadgod to Tri/Tet/Pen.  And then when you are doing that, buying from the CM isn't going to be enough, you need 2100 for a single attempt that is 2.1b silver or around $220 per click to attempt Tri, 2.7b silver or $282 to attempt tet, and even worse for Pen attempts of 4b silver per click or $417 per attempt.  Since it's about a 1% chance to succeed Tri, Tet, and Pen for fallen god, lets say 20 attempts per tier, it's around $18,000 if you get lucky cronning 1 piece of fallen god to pen.  If someone wants to spend $18,000 per piece to get a minor edge, then fine go right ahead and pay to win, thanks for keeping the servers running.

 

The level of Pay 2 win you have to do to actually pay and win is just not realistic.  Someone doing that is more likely to use piloting via external sources to get their "edge", than use the pearl shop to get said edge.  

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Last Edit : Apr 20, 2021, 08:04 (UTC)
# 45
On: Apr 20, 2021, 03:07 (UTC), Written by Werbs

 

Not really, the only way that would work is if someone buys pearl items off the pearl shop with the intended purpose of melting said item to try and enhance with.  Cron stones just are not worth RL money or in game Silver unless you are enhancing deadgod to Tri/Tet/Pen.  And then when you are doing that, buying from the CM isn't going to be enough, you need 2100 for a single attempt that is 2.1b silver or around $220 per click to attempt Tri, 2.7b silver or $282 to attempt tet, and even worse for Pen attempts of 4b silver per click or $417 per attempt.  Since it's about a 1% chance to succeed Tri, Tet, and Pen for fallen god, lets say 20 attempts per tier, it's around $18,000 if you get lucky cronning 1 piece of fallen god to pen.  If someone wants to spend $18,000 per piece to get a minor edge, then fine go right ahead and pay to win, thanks for keeping the servers running.

 

The level of Pay 2 win you have to do to actually pay and win is just not realistic.  Someone doing that is more likely to use piloting via external sources to get their "edge", than use the pearl shop to get said edge.  

You are clearly clueless about the game. Go do the math before spread BS...

Crons mega worth it on any level of enchament, and enchanting most items without crons actually cost more (on avarage) than their market value...

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Last Edit : Apr 20, 2021, 08:59 (UTC)
# 46
On: Apr 19, 2021, 23:13 (UTC), Written by Retteo

"Even most spenders will still place a bid on this."

 

A smarter person would have concluded that "most" doesn't include "all".  Thus "some" spenders will not place bids.

 

Did you miss this statement INTENTIONALLY TOO

"While not every player will have a bid on a VP, it does cover the vast majority of players."

 

It's almost like you are TRYING to fail ;)

I never buy a VP from the market, since theres one with loyalties for 24 hours(if I remember well). I also have VPs from giveaways and I rarely even use one. Only on special occasions. And your statistics you've written even from your first post are just fake news so to say.

Last Edit : Apr 20, 2021, 09:34 (UTC)
# 47
Écrit le : 19 avr. 2021, 21:52 (UTC), par : Altos

You are just speculating, throwing around percentages  with absolutely no data to back it up. You have zero idea what percentage of players preorder anything. The biggest sellers are COSTUMES for crons and most people will not tie up their one pearl preorder on a vp that will never be filled when they want crons, stop making things up dude. 

Producing unbacked up nonsense is what Ratteo/ Vortexxi/2cents has been doing for half a decade, you precisely and rightfully pointed out his bullshit.

 

The best part is when his fraud is publicly exposed with facts and evidence he keeps arrogantly trying to bullshit everyone even harder as you can witness on this topic.

Last Edit : Apr 20, 2021, 11:18 (UTC)
# 48

When one thinks that bdo palyerbase can't be any more stupid, then always comes a new one showing that there's always a more stupid one, by openly claiming BS like not "wasting" 133m pocket change on trying to get a 30d VP as he can just waste his limited loyalities, insted of using them on other valuable items...

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Last Edit : Apr 20, 2021, 14:29 (UTC)
# 49
On: Apr 19, 2021, 17:03 (UTC), Written by Vulpin

This post reminds me why some people have zero reason to post in public forums. Rather an discuss anything this user comes in here shit post says people are wrong because he says so an that literally it. Than let point out the fact that this is his first time ever posting on these forums.

 

This user's post reminds me of the people cohhcarnage laugh at in his channel. The ones who go into his twitch chat say a game he playing his bad an assumes the only reason he playing it is because he being paid to play it. Than cohh look at their chat history an points out how those users only ever posted once in his chat over the course of 6 years that his twitch chat existed. Like lol some people like to just make fools of themselves huh.

why are you so triggered? There is no discussion with the OPs thread. He's literally pulling claims out of his butt....

Last Edit : Apr 20, 2021, 15:05 (UTC)
# 50
On: Apr 19, 2021, 10:57 (UTC), Written by PlasticDK

How is preordering outfits for your caracter P2W?

You are mostlikely alone with this stupidity tbh.

 

How much bullshit are you spinning with this post?  Most people buy outfits to melt it for CRONS or whales buy to resell it for silver in game.

 

Most people who want outfits for their characters try to buy it from these whales who post stuff on the marketplace.

 

OR the whales specifically SUPPLY the end gamers with outfits to melt for CRONS.

 

Are you just ignorant or have you not played this game for very long?

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