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POLL/SURVEY: Concerning several game aspects
Apr 17, 2021, 00:25 (UTC)
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Last Edit : Apr 18, 2021, 05:30 (UTC)
# 1

Hello lovely PA/BDO community,

 

You probably wonder, what is this heck of a long post here and why should you even care about... 

 

This is about several changes of graphical aspects, soundchanges, lightning changes, adjustment in payments to more userfriendlyness in the Pearl Shop, individual options for the map, and a more flexible graphic settings interface in the in-game options.

If you don't agree with it, it´s fine, but don´t wonder, if many people make a vote and the company decides to take action and going to make changes due to that survey here.

I also have made an private support ticket to PA concerning all of the points listed in this post, you can read that as well here.

 

So to have some changes on those matters, what I personally think should be changed/improved, the community has to confirm these issues too. Thats the simple reason for me starting this poll/survey here right now.

 

Please read first all about the conversation between me and support, before starting any vote decision and even before making any comment of yourself at all, it´s for your understanding!

 

Original message from me to the PA Support:

Mare_TheFirst | TheMyvFamily - 2021-04-16 11:12:54 
Hello dear PA-Support Employee, dear PA-Development and dear PA-Team,

I started to play one month ago, and since I am someone who is eager to improve things sometimes when I am new somewhere I love to do so. And since maybe people who are already used to do something for many years over and over again maybe won´t see it, at least thats what my experience from work is.
So always when I come into a new work-environment I see something what could be improved and I put my hands on to improve it or make it a little more comfortable the situation for everyone.
Same in the game here. So I have some strong recommendations for you, which you should improve or rework on in the future.

Let´s go to the maybe most annoying things in the game which are...

Looks/Graphics:
- Bloom:
The overall picture quality is already really nice, but what totally distracts or annoys me and probably other players too, is the overbrighten on white surfaces. Whereas dark areas sometimes are too dark. Medium dark areas, which should be more dark are too bright. The blooming has to be totally reworked!
- Nights and dungeons:
Nights and dungeons are way too bright, should be way more dark in my opinion, same as the surroundings in the night, to let the players really force to use their atanis firefly or flare.
- Moon:
There is moonshine almost every night. Is it not possible to integrate a cycle for randomising the appearance of the moon, if it´s one night there and another night not there? And the light or reflected light in distance looks also kinda too bright for night with moonlight.
- Vignette: (CHANGED: 04-17-2021 02:17 AM from originally "Vibrance:", explanation, typo-error, all words containing "vibrance", changed to "vignette")
There is a clearly visible vignette, in other words the center of the screen has a normal picture light, whereas when it goes to the four corners to the screen it goes darker and darker the overall picture, like a light shadow. This effect is totally annoying and disturbing in the whole gameplay and not really needed, not to mention that it´s definitely not realistic.

Sounds:
- Dogs:
In many locations, farms, cities, etc. there are dogs, their barks repeating are way to fast or at least too often and constantly repeating in the same monotonous sound, it is really annoying to hear them barking the whole time, when you have to do something on the spot or when you want to focus on reading the quest instruction. At least it should be more diverse the barking.
- NPC Trader Wagon:
In many locations where the wagon is traveling there is a bug, which creates a endless slope of the soundeffect from the moving trader wagon, even it´s already gone the trader NPC it will still play endlessly the sound of the moving wagon. This happens in many locations randomly where the trade route is.

Now something less gameplay-disturbing...
- Map:
There should be the option to mark something important on your own map. Like a marker or a danger sign or just anything what look like a sign. For example if I left my mount in the desert i set a marker on the location so I know where it is. Or if i found some interesting location with a not marked NPC, but i want to go back to it, there should be the possibility for me to mark that only for me visible on the map.
- UI:
The PvP signs position is corrupt, sometimes it will disappear and sometimes it is showing correctly as it should be. Nevertheless it is not interrupting the PvP option or function, which still works on pressing ALT+C. But I cannot see the PvP symbol sometimes. It is connected to the Menu Settings, General Settings - Quality of life - Simplify UI
- Cashshop:
Me and one of my friends talked about a more user-friendly cashshop to cash registration. The prepaid function is already cool. But the amounts of loading money to get Acoins could be more user-friendly. One of my friends is a student and cannot afford to load 10 Euro for example in the shop, she wants to load a desired amount or maybe a maximum of 5 Euro.
- Maintenance:
A little bit frustrating every week in the middle of the day when I wanted to play. While I used to sleep on night time and play on daytime, but I think this maintenance decision goes on the active player counts. Early morning maintenance would be better?

And last but not least, something very very important!
- Settings:
The grafic settings are way too strict. I cannot adjust shadows, I cannot adjust the view distance of objects, I cannot adjust bloom-effect, and I cannot adjust many other options for grafics.
Maybe you can integrate options for all players to make it more hardware-friendly for everyone. That people maybe can turn off shadows, or change the map-size of the shadows, instead of 1024mByte per shadow for example to less resolution of the shadow cascade. Or if a player wants a less edgy shadow and has a high-end hardware, than higher shadow resolution. Or for the overall edge detection, anisotropic filtering option to adjust it like 2 times, 4 times, 8 times, 16 times anisotropic filtering. (CHANGED: 04-17-2021 10:38 AM from originally "antialiasing", explanation, typo-error, all words containing "antialiasing", changed to "anisotropic filtering")

Following the reply of the support:

[GM]Tigris | Pearl Abyss - 2021-04-16 18:30:27
Greetings,
 
My name is GM Tigris and I will be your assistant for today. 
 
I understand from this email you would like to see some changes to a number of elements in our world. Please know that our support team will always be here to assist players, old and new. We also always endeavor to provide amazing support and assist players in whatever ways we possibly can.

Thank you for taking the time to pass along your ideas, I think it could be a wonderful addition to our world and I will be passing this suggestion along to the development team! 

Please make sure to put your suggestion in our Forums as well! We follow attentively each topic so we can evaluate which ideas are the most popular and what issues are the most annoying in-game. While we have a very busy schedule, it happens that we review our to-do list thanks to you. 

If there is anything else we can assist you with today please don't hesitate to contact us again either by re-opening this ticket or creating a new one.
 
Kind Regards
GM Tigris
The Black Desert Support Team

 

The vote progress:

 

I have made a more slim version of the stated points in my message to the support. So the slim version is the voting. Which starts from here. 

 

Only vote yes or no, agree, disagree, leave it as it is, or just don´t vote if you don´t like it.

For your decision-making kindly use the empty table in my second post, it´s easier for you and for everyone. 

Feel free to put also own thoughts inside, but most important in that case, make first yes or no in the gap, than following your comment afterwards. 

 

Please make it as simple as possible.

 

Description:

Now the description of changes, changes after the vote should occur, changes which should take place in updates.

 

1. Looks/Graphics:

Bloom:
a) Reduce over-whitening on certain surfaces (white/gray tiles on the floor, wall) especially the increased amount of whitening on already white-grayish surfaces, and reduce the over-blooming in the desert sand on mid-day. (mostly on remastered mode)

b) Reduce over-whitening around the sun, the sky area. (mostly on remastered mode)

 

Nights and dungeons:
a) Making simply darker nights, darker night-skies, darker distance night

b) Making darker dungeons


Moon:
a) Less overbrighten of the moonlight on distance surfaces

b) More diverse moon cycles (one night moon, next night no moon, etc.)


Vignette:
a) Remove vignette

Explanation--->Grayish border on the screen, slight shadoweffect when the overall natural picture color of the game goes further to the corners of the screen it will be added. As closer as it comes to the corners and sides to the screen it goes more and more darker the picture, it reduces its natural picture color. Very unnatural disturbing effect, which is added nowadays in some games. 

2. Sounds:

Dogs:
a) Less dog barking, more individual dog barking, or more diverse barking cycles


NPC Trader Wagon:

a) Fixing the soundbug of NPC trader wagons, when wagons are already gone of position, but the sound is still playing of the moving wagon.

3. General:

Map:
a) Adding the option for personal map markers on the map


UI:
a) Fixing the PvP sign when changed the settings to "Simplify UI", or when the PvP sign is changed through the individual HP bar in the personal UI adjustments


Pearl-shop: (Individual section!)

PLEASE PUT ONLY A MAXIMUM OF 3 AMOUNTS and ONLY FULL AMOUNTS, NO AFTER-COMMA AMOUNTS and IN 2-5 EURO/DOLLAR STEPS and ONLY ONE MINIMUM AMOUNT! (STEAM-Users, can only charge a minimum of 5 Euro in the Steam-store) - Example: 5 Euro (minimum), 10 Euro, 15 Euro

a) Adding more customer-friendly loading options for prepaid Acoins in the Pearl Shop. E.g. minimum amount 5 Euro, instead of minimum 10 Euro

Maintenance: (Individual section!)

PLEASE PUT YOUR OWN MAINTENANCE-TIME PREFERENCE HERE!

a) More user-friendly maintenance

EU Region, CEST Timezone

6:00 AM - 10:00 AM


Settings:

a) Less strict graphic-settings, more adjustments to the graphics settings

b) Add authentic fire/fire-flickering-effect to all torches, campfires and candles, as additional separate adjustable graphic setting

 

YOUR VOTE SHOULD LOOK LIKE THIS:

Familyname: TheMyvFamily

1 Bloom - a

yes

1 Bloom - b

yes, reduce blooming!

1 Nights and dungeons - a

yes

1 Nights and dungeons - b

yes, darker please!

1 Moon - a

yes

1 Moon - b

yes

1 Vignette - a

yes, remove vignette please.

2 Dogs - a

agree

2 NPC Trader Wagon - a

yes

3 Map - a

yes, add individual map marking!

3 UI - a

yes please

3 Pearl-shop - a (Individual section)

5 Euro, 7 Euro, 15 Euro

3 Maintenance - a (Individual section)

EU Region, CEST Timezone

6:00 AM - 10:00 AM

3 Settings - a

yes, more individual!

 

3 Settings - b

yes, i want fire on torches!

 

Personal Vote-END

 

 

Rules and Information:

Abbreviations: PA (Pearl Abyss), BDO (Black Desert Online)

Term of this voteprogress: unlimited/indefinitely, until PA sees a reasonable amount of votes to have reason for taking action and making changes according to this survey

Only votes, which fit to the description of changes are valid!

Only 1 vote per account, no double voting!

Only votes made on this post, in this forum are valid!

Supervision of this poll has to take place by PA.

Supervision and validity of votes is made by the community.

Vote validity is also supervised by PA for double-account-votes or if this is not possible, the PA sorts invalid votes out.

If changes are made and if changes of certain aspects of the game regarding this vote can be made, or are simply impossible due to aspects of the game-engine, PA should inform the community in this post.

If certain aspects of here requested changes can not be fulfilled by PA, and PA knows this fact while vote is in progress, PA should inform the community in this poll.

Correction of mistakes written in the poll can be made by the author.

 

Feel free to send the link to this vote to your BDO friends.

Let´s hope, PA can make use of this survey here and let´s hope its not too complicated for them :D 

 

Good luck everyone and have fun and happy gathering :) 



(Reworked: 04-18-2021 07:29 AM changed some of the explanations from the original post, to make it better understandable and simpler. Changes of certain rules.)

Last Edit : Apr 18, 2021, 03:19 (UTC)
# 2

To make it a little more handy for your voting. Here is the empty vote. Just copy and paste the table and fill in the rows and columns your vote.

 

Familyname: 

1 Bloom - a

 

1 Bloom - b

 

1 Nights and dungeons - a

 

1 Nights and dungeons - b

 

1 Moon - a

 

1 Moon - b

 

1 Vignette - a

 

2 Dogs - a

 

2 NPC Trader Wagon - a

 

3 Map - a

 

3 UI - a

 

3 Pearl-shop - a (Individual section)

 

3 Maintenance - a (Individual section)

EU Region, CEST Timezone

 

3 Settings - a

 

 

3 Settings - b

 

 

Personal Vote-END

Last Edit : Apr 17, 2021, 10:30 (UTC)
# 3

Mayority of those are doesn't matter category issues, the game have much, much much more severe issues than random dog barking or not.

 

 

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Last Edit : Apr 17, 2021, 10:57 (UTC)
# 4
Écrit le : 17 avr. 2021, 10:30 (UTC), par : PlasticDK

Mayority of those are doesn't matter category issues, the game have much, much much more severe issues than random dog barking or not.

 

 

You mean more severe issues such as lack of DK outfits amirite.

Last Edit : Apr 18, 2021, 00:21 (UTC)
# 5

I reworked on the explanation of this post and made the table a little simpler. Hope it suits you well. 

Last Edit : Apr 18, 2021, 07:31 (UTC)
# 6

 

Familyname: HitoriOgami

1 Bloom - a

yes

1 Bloom - b

yes, reduce blooming!

1 Nights and dungeons - a

yes

1 Nights and dungeons - b

yes, darker please!

1 Moon - a

yes

1 Moon - b

yes

1 Vignette - a

yes, remove vignette please.

2 Dogs - a

agree, but not realy care

2 NPC Trader Wagon - a

yes, but not realy care

3 Map - a

yes, add individual map marking!

3 UI - a

yes please

3 Pearl-shop - a (Individual section)

5 Euro,  15 Euro

3 Maintenance - a (Individual section)

EU Region, CEST Timezone

6:00 AM - 10:00 AM

3 Settings - a

yes, more individual!

 

3 Settings - b

yes, i want fire on torches!

 

Overal good ideas, but yes the game need adresed more important issues. Bounty system, More party play, zones with better AI, etc.

But its good to start from somewher.

Last Edit : Apr 18, 2021, 07:36 (UTC)
# 7
On: Apr 17, 2021, 10:57 (UTC), Written by Smileybones

You mean more severe issues such as lack of DK outfits amirite.

Can there ever be too many Waifu outfits?  I mean be honest, at what point would you say that there doesn't need to be a new one?

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Lv 49
S713
Last Edit : Apr 18, 2021, 10:54 (UTC)
# 8
On: Apr 17, 2021, 10:57 (UTC), Written by Smileybones

You mean more severe issues such as lack of DK outfits amirite.

Probably this is the first time when you wrote something that isn't BS.

Althrough I didn't mean that.

 

If we would rank the stuff from 1-10 (10 is the highest priority)

-The stuff the guy wrote would be 2

-The more DK outfits would be 7

-The balance issues would be 10

 

That's actually not only player wise, but company wise. They wouldn't get any more money if the dog would bark less, or if there would be different moons or whathewer, so it would be waste of time to allocate rescource for that. (Literately, companies plan this way, it have no added value, even if fixing that would take very low effort.)

Those outfits on the other hand ain't free, people buy it, so it actually making profit, so investing into them would return the value. (Though PA mainly sell outfits for P2W, and since you ain't getting more crons from new outfits, they ain't really bother with releasing more decent ones.)

 

PA doesn't even care about more serious issues, they are definetly not going to care about the "doesn't matter" level issues like those either. And I say that after/while reporting many low prio bugs/suggestions which never will be adressed.

 

 

Also please note, that the not having 5EUR option isn't a "we forgot it" issue. It's a purposely done marketing step. They know that this way people are forced to buy more, so they willl going to have leftover which encourages further spending. This is psychology, if you are intrested in "how to create predatory store" you can find studies in the field, but in tl.dr things like this are done on purpose, hence it's unlikely that they change it.

244 4634
Lv 62
Hnnie
Last Edit : Apr 19, 2021, 13:43 (UTC)
# 9
On: Apr 18, 2021, 07:31 (UTC), Written by IWalkAlone

 

Familyname: HitoriOgami

1 Bloom - a

yes

1 Bloom - b

yes, reduce blooming!

1 Nights and dungeons - a

yes

1 Nights and dungeons - b

yes, darker please!

1 Moon - a

yes

1 Moon - b

yes

1 Vignette - a

yes, remove vignette please.

2 Dogs - a

agree, but not realy care

2 NPC Trader Wagon - a

yes, but not realy care

3 Map - a

yes, add individual map marking!

3 UI - a

yes please

3 Pearl-shop - a (Individual section)

5 Euro,  15 Euro

3 Maintenance - a (Individual section)

EU Region, CEST Timezone

6:00 AM - 10:00 AM

3 Settings - a

yes, more individual!

 

3 Settings - b

yes, i want fire on torches!

 

Overal good ideas, but yes the game need adresed more important issues. Bounty system, More party play, zones with better AI, etc.

But its good to start from somewher.

Thanks for making a start :) 

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