Nightcrawler
Seasons is season and have issue because there isnt a correct range of interesting aviable location to grind tuvala enhance mat ( there is only like 3 spots, all others are just uninteresting ). AND FARR too much players for 4 channels only.
So comparing the season situation with a potential pve "classic" channel is straight stupid.
As it only look like as a bad attempt at a fallacious logic manipulation just because you have nothing else to blame a pve " situation".
The seasonal "problem" clearly ( yet that problem stop after like 1-2 week ) isnt the lack of "pvp" ( as in a overcrowed situation even a "forced pk" still would be a pain, and nearly even worse )
Yet sure, they could setup a classic "with pk & karma" channels as somes of thoses self proclamed "owpvp-er" arent apprently able to deal with arsha, because, like the classic pve channel request, its always better to have more choice, so "please" everyone.
And stil change nothing what you say "agaisnt" pure pve situation only is your opinion, so who care, that's channels you would never go into, so that's a none issue you not liking the potential idea of a "without forced pvp" channels idea.
Back on topic, after all that trash for the past 3 pages.....
I can count many more than 3 spots to farm Tuvala mats. You have Pollies (obviously), Fadus not as good but it works, Bashums (180+), Cadry (210+), Gahaz, Fogans, Nagas, Pila Ku (235+), Sulfer mine (235+), Neve Stepps (party up to 5, 210 AP), Crescents (180+), Waragons (180+), Marie Cave (supports 5 man on one gravestone in a party or each person solo, actualy a good grind spot) and Tshira Ruins.
I have to ask which 3 were you referring to. And I didn't even add Kagtum, Sherekhan, Ronaros, or Manshaums because not every class can grind those spots with sub 245 AP.
Back on topic, after all that trash for the past 3 pages.....
I can count many more than 3 spots to farm Tuvala mats. You have Pollies (obviously), Fadus not as good but it works, Bashums (180+), Cadry (210+), Gahaz, Fogans, Nagas, Pila Ku (235+), Sulfer mine (235+), Neve Stepps (party up to 5, 210 AP), Crescents (180+), Waragons (180+), Marie Cave (supports 5 man on one gravestone in a party or each person solo, actualy a good grind spot) and Tshira Ruins.
I have to ask which 3 were you referring to. And I didn't even add Kagtum, Sherekhan, Ronaros, or Manshaums because not every class can grind those spots with sub 245 AP.
Marie Cave is awesome. True hidden gem for mid-game, imo.
Back on topic, after all that trash for the past 3 pages.....
I can count many more than 3 spots to farm Tuvala mats. You have Pollies (obviously), Fadus not as good but it works, Bashums (180+), Cadry (210+), Gahaz, Fogans, Nagas, Pila Ku (235+), Sulfer mine (235+), Neve Stepps (party up to 5, 210 AP), Crescents (180+), Waragons (180+), Marie Cave (supports 5 man on one gravestone in a party or each person solo, actualy a good grind spot) and Tshira Ruins.
I have to ask which 3 were you referring to. And I didn't even add Kagtum, Sherekhan, Ronaros, or Manshaums because not every class can grind those spots with sub 245 AP.
Marie Cave is awesome. True hidden gem for mid-game, imo.
Back on topic, after all that trash for the past 3 pages.....
I can count many more than 3 spots to farm Tuvala mats.
You can count more than 3 as there is indeed far more than 3 where tuvala enhance mat drop, yet, only 3 actualy are interesting to grind, as other have a different tuvala loot repartition which make them just worthless to grind. ofc that only considering tuvala enhance mat "drop".
( and considering the potential incoming season, i will clearly not reveal more informations about that )
yet that "subject" is not relevant for the topic. Not change the idiocy of using season as reference to determine how a classic pve channel would be ( and even if it was a accurate reference point it doesnt change : Who care, if you dislike season because its without "forced pk & karma" that's not channel you would play into )
So...you are saying that seasonal was okay if you went to places nobody cared about?!? How is that any different from normal servers now? If you grind at sherekhan at night...guess what, nobody is gonna bother you too. Any area worth grinding in seasonal was a giant mess...which means a PvE server, the places worth grinding will also be a giant mess.
Actualy, i stayed at spot where the tuvala mat drop are the most interesting,, but for somes reasons players wanted to "stick with somes others spots" ( but as i said, because potential more incoming season ( or if they change all loot table ) i will clearly not display more info about that, also because it doesnt matter for that topic )
But whatever, in the end, its a none issue if you consider pve channel as giant mess ( because for somes reasons to use season pve a 1-1 and imagine its going to be exactly like that ) as apparently you would not want to play into pve channel.
So ? all good, you would stick with "with forced pk", and others would be happy to stick with that "giant mess" where they wouldnt be bothered by the pk they dislike.
Back on topic, after all that trash for the past 3 pages.....
I can count many more than 3 spots to farm Tuvala mats. You have Pollies (obviously), Fadus not as good but it works, Bashums (180+), Cadry (210+), Gahaz, Fogans, Nagas, Pila Ku (235+), Sulfer mine (235+), Neve Stepps (party up to 5, 210 AP), Crescents (180+), Waragons (180+), Marie Cave (supports 5 man on one gravestone in a party or each person solo, actualy a good grind spot) and Tshira Ruins.
I have to ask which 3 were you referring to. And I didn't even add Kagtum, Sherekhan, Ronaros, or Manshaums because not every class can grind those spots with sub 245 AP.
Karen could explain how a PVP server doesn't ruin BDO, but a PVE server does?
Karen could explain how a PVP server doesn't ruin BDO, but a PVE server does?
Removes the "not safe ever" feeling/mechanic that the game is supposed to provide as advertised.
You can count more than 3 as there is indeed far more than 3 where tuvala enhance mat drop, yet, only 3 actualy are interesting to grind, as other have a different tuvala loot repartition which make them just worthless to grind. ofc that only considering tuvala enhance mat "drop".
( and considering the potential incoming season, i will clearly not reveal more informations about that )
yet that "subject" is not relevant for the topic. Not change the idiocy of using season as reference to determine how a classic pve channel would be ( and even if it was a accurate reference point it doesnt change : Who care, if you dislike season because its without "forced pk & karma" that's not channel you would play into )
Every one I listed drops Ore, Time Worn stones, and the force enhance stones with the exception of Marie Cave, which didn't drop the force enhance stones due to being calpheon, since Valencia, Dreghan, and Kamasylvia only dropped the force enhance stones.
Your "I am not going to tell people because it's a big secret" sounds more like "oh shit I got caught bull shitting, I'm know, I'll call it a secret instead". In fact even if you THINK there are super secret spots, you are most likely wrong, considering many many streamers have done on air comparisons for Time-worn stones, and I do believe there are many spreadsheets floating around Reddit showing that Kill speed is the only determining factor when considering where to find the time-worn stones, which means you then fall back onto Silver per hour if you are 1 hitting the packs.