#Gameplay_General
Need for dedicated PVE server
Apr 22, 2021, 01:20 (UTC)
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May 1, 2021, 06:39 (UTC)
# 232
On: Apr 30, 2021, 20:56 (UTC), Written by Retteo
In prior statements you made Seasonal Servers out to be a huge failure due to their lack of PVP. I specifically pointed out there where MANY factors to the success or failure of Seasonal Servers. You went on pretending it was all about the missing PVP element.
No. That's not what he said :
On: Apr 30, 2021, 20:42 (UTC), Written by PeaceInChaos
Seasonal was great for bringing new players into the game. What it was bad, and IMO detremental to the game, is not introduce new players to BDO well enough. Too condensed, gains too rapid and easy, no good exploration of lifeskills and how lifeskills intertwine with each other, only grinding in a PVE only setting.
IMO, Seasonal gave a terrible impression on Black Desert Online's PvPvE, long-term, gameplay to new players and didn't teach players well-enough how to succeed post-gradutation.
It goes far beyond the "all about the missing PVP element". You're caught lying once more, and you're doing it openly.
THAT is called being a fraud.
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May 1, 2021, 08:02 (UTC)
# 233
Écrit le : 30 avr. 2021, 17:28 (UTC), par : Bleach
Just throwing your personal conception of "an issue" without backing up with argument, demonstration based in BDO system function, causality.. etc,
Seasons is a season, so tuvala ( so all surrounding with drop rate table, limited GS as "season is a sort of catchup etc ) is related to season, you still have jack sh#t as systems that was actualy reworked directly because forced pk is disabled ( like di you have less mobs spawning because forced pk is disabled ? do the xp / sp chnaged because no forced pk ? do somes life skills was totaly reworked because forced pk is totaly tie to that life skill and both cant work without the other ? etc... )
Lets go again as you still have nothing, and still dont provide any piece of demonstration
Écrit le : 14 avr. 2021, 10:15 (UTC), par : Woots
So again Mr strawman.
- Where are your proof regarding pve channels beeing detrimental to BDO
- What pve systems did they changed because forced pk was disabled ? ( like did mob spawn was changed ? did loot was changed ? did xp curve was changed ? ... etc etc )
Even if that wasnt directed to you, but as you want to help your buddy strawman mr second account.
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May 1, 2021, 08:20 (UTC)
# 234
Écrit le : 30 avr. 2021, 17:43 (UTC), par : Sadalsuud
Aaaaaah, you didn't find my answers? Not a problem, just check my previous posts, even some recent ones, and you'll find any answers you need!
No need to thank me, my pleasure! ;)
DODGING again !, mr strawman
Lets keep expose how more than 1 &1/2month after you still are unable to explain your own premise
Écrit le : 14 avr. 2021, 10:15 (UTC), par : Woots
So again Mr strawman.
- Where are your proof regarding pve channels beeing detrimental to BDO
- What pve systems did they changed because forced pk was disabled ? ( like did mob spawn was changed ? did loot was changed ? did xp curve was changed ? ... etc etc )
Écrit le : 14 avr. 2021, 10:25 (UTC), par : Woots
To put another nails in the salsuud strawman coffin
Imagine ! one month ago i was already talking about that strawman already unable to argument & demonstrate his premise.
Imagine, that guy since a month still try to dodge
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May 1, 2021, 08:43 (UTC)
# 235
On: May 1, 2021, 08:00 (UTC), Written by Woots
Just throwing your personal conception of "an issue" without backing up with argument, demonstration based in BDO system function, causality.. etc,
Seasons is a season, so tuvala ( so all surrounding with drop rate table, limited GS as "season is a sort of catchup etc ) is related to season, you still have jack sh#t as systems that was actualy reworked directly because forced pk is disabled ( like di you have less mobs spawning because forced pk is disabled ? do the xp / sp chnaged because no forced pk ? do somes life skills was totaly reworked because forced pk is totaly tie to that life skill and both cant work without the other ? etc... )
Lets go again as you still have nothing, and still dont provide any piece of demonstration
Even if that wasnt directed to you, but as you want to help your buddy strawman mr second account.
And the fact that even a veteran with good gear on regular channel was effectively limited in pve grind and its related income on season channel due to the tuvala gear is apparently not a direct rework.
Yeah, I know, it was the same thing on season Arsha. But your pve income is limited, it should ring a bell, above all when devs carefully avoided making a season elvia realm - - > BDO high level pve grind comes with owpvp.
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May 1, 2021, 08:52 (UTC)
# 236
Écrit le : 30 avr. 2021, 20:42 (UTC), par : PeaceInChaos
Seasonal was great for bringing new players into the game. What it was bad, and IMO detremental to the game, is not introduce new players to BDO well enough. Too condensed, gains too rapid and easy, no good exploration of lifeskills and how lifeskills intertwine with each other, only grinding in a PVE only setting.
All that isnt related to "without force pk" experience but only with "how season was managed and only focused on GS catch up / boost" so totaly unrelated to the "classic pve channel request topic"
whatever your personal consideration about about "how BDO should be displayed to new players"
You still have no concrete argument about why and how so its a problem to offer a pve only experience ( especialy as again, unless that specificaly your personal fun to attack another player in the open world the forced pk bring no added value to the game on a systemic point of view and is "nested" / " interlocked"with no other systems )
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May 1, 2021, 09:23 (UTC)
# 238
Écrit le : 1 mai 2021, 08:43 (UTC), par : Sadalsuud
And the fact that even a veteran with good gear on regular channel was effectively limited in pve grind and its related income on season channel due to the tuvala gear is apparently not a direct rework.
Yeah, I know, it was the same thing on season Arsha. But your pve income is limited, it should ring a bell, above all when devs carefully avoided making a season elvia realm - - > BDO high level pve grind comes with owpvp.
hum, do you have somes condition we should know about that would explain your unabilty to understand simple things ? In that case i can get why you are so off.
Or if you try your usual logical fallacy, well i'am sorry, but it only make you look like someone very stupid ( i can only hope for you its not the case )
Dont you understand that Tuvala aim new players / players with low GS ( as it was displayed in the lastest calpheON with the BIG majority of players with a "low" Gear Score ? was it like 60++% or something, forgot the exact value )
As such its a form to catch up mechanic allowing players to go to a certain gear score to make them have access to more advanced "grind spot" + new class at level 61, so more income potential compare to "without tuvala". Also more ease to have them start ( if they would ever do so ) work on the new powercreeped gear ( PEN - Caphra level - black star - death god ) as the powercreep slider keep move up.
So OF COURSE its going to have some limit that will not make ""veteran"" very interested by. Or are you such a selfcentric person that if something isnt made specificaly for you its not ok ?
And you still are the pepega trying to associate TUVALA with a pure pve situation while thoses still arent related at all.
BTW, before trying to have a discussion you are unable to handle, you forget to complet that one.
Écrit le : 14 avr. 2021, 10:15 (UTC), par : Woots
So again Mr strawman.
- Where are your proof regarding pve channels beeing detrimental to BDO
- What pve systems did they changed because forced pk was disabled ? ( like did mob spawn was changed ? did loot was changed ? did xp curve was changed ? ... etc etc )
Écrit le : 14 avr. 2021, 10:25 (UTC), par : Woots
To put another nails in the salsuud strawman coffin
Imagine ! one month ago i was already talking about that strawman already unable to argument & demonstrate his premise.
Imagine, that guy since a month still try to dodge
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May 1, 2021, 09:34 (UTC)
# 239
On: May 1, 2021, 09:09 (UTC), Written by Altos
Isn't your name against the tos?
How would a russian name be against ToS?
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May 1, 2021, 10:16 (UTC)
# 240
On: May 1, 2021, 09:13 (UTC), Written by Woots
hum, do you have somes condition we should know about that would explain your unabilty to understand simple things ? In that case i can get why you are so off.
Or if you try your usual logical fallacy, well i'am sorry, but it only make you look like someone very stupid ( i can only hope for you its not the case )
Dont you understand that Tuvala aim new players / players with low GS ( as it was displayed in the lastest calpheON with the BIG majority of players with a "low" Gear Score ? was it like 60++% or something, forgot the exact value )
As such its a form to catch up mechanic allowing players to go to a certain gear score to make them have access to more advanced "grind spot" + new class at level 61, so more income potential compare to "without tuvala". Also more ease to have them start ( if they would ever do so ) work on the new powercreeped gear ( PEN - Caphra level - black star - death god ) as the powercreep slider keep move up.
So OF COURSE its going to have some limit that will not make ""veteran"" very interested by. Or are you such a selfcentric person that if something isnt made specificaly for you its not ok ?
And you still are the pepega trying to associate TUVALA with a pure pve situation while thoses still arent related at all.
BTW, before trying to have a discussion you are unable to handle, you forget to complet that one.
Trying to make things up again.
I'll say it again slowly, don't worry : they directly reworked season so that veterans can't stay on seasonal for their high-level pve grind. Tuvala is not only a stuff that only season characters can wear, it is the only one that can wear (except some quest accessories, yes).
So no high level pure pve grind, even for vets who have the gear to usually go on these grind spots on a pvpve setting.
*ding*... Or not? ^^
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