Region:  NA

Character:  Picklenose

When is the karma issue going to be addressed?  You should not be punished by defending your spot from someone who decides to grind over you til you get pissed off and flag up on them.  "Swap to another server" is a piss-poor suggestion.  

Why did we make karma recovery like a fraction of what it was?   No logic behind this besides killing open world PvP.

I'm not even big on open world PvP, but I should not be punished for defending my spot against some turd who wants to grief.

The ammount of griefers  i see is like 1 /100 people most people respect of someone's grinding to swap channels or look for another spot in same area

The only ones I see not doing this is  the red guild that legit doesn't actually want to pvp and just outnumber you to make you swap. 

Open world pvp is dead  and there's better ways to implement it then what it was before. Like being in a pvp guild opting you into 1 sided decs. They should remove the karma system and flagging system all together .

First of all its not your spot it's just a spot which is avaiable for all of us (this is where the problem starts). Second the whole open world pvp ingame and how they try to navigate between a single pleayer mmo and a pvp based mmo is a joke. They introduced golden pig cave and i hope they gonna rework every grind spot like that for exactly this reason. 

It's called common courtesy.  They're only doing it to grief you.  If they really wanted to grind there, they'd find a spot that didn't have someone already, because they're literally griefing themselves as well.

I find the current system better than when DFS or PK was common. I understand why some people don't like it, but back in those days, most people abused the system and literally dedicated themselves to bullying others and being nasty on a daily basis. The game is a lot healthier now.

By the way, defending your spot, as you said, never really worked they would simply respawn and keep coming. Guild wars were also abused, with stronger guilds bullying weaker ones 24/7 for no real reason. I saw it happen so many times it was just too toxic.

Nowadays, that toxicity is growing again, probably due to the increase in competitive modes (specially solare I like the mode but the people is just ufff). These modes seem to bring out the worst in people who lack self-control, making them pretty obnoxious. But that's more of a community problem than a game one, people need to grow up and start respecting others instead of feeling the need to feed their ego every 20 minutes.

Yes i know that thats why i aproached it from this perspective. I hate it too when it happens but tbh they just abusing the system and pa let them abuse it. Open world pvp needs to go and more grind spots like pig cave or more marni hours needs to be introduced to elliminate this behaviour. 

Really come full circle, huh? You're right; the point was to kill OW pvp. You guys wanted this stuff and you got exactly that, so why complain now? Or do you finally realize how heavy handed and dumb all of the changes were? Also lol at the guy asking for full instanced gameplay. Actually nuts.

I understand that sort of griefing.  I think PA should bring back one sided deccs but put timers and cooldowns on them so that people can defend a spot for a few hours but also to prevent endless deccs meant to harass people for no reason.

I get you Pickle and I agree in that case you're not the bad guy but in my experience, trust me its better to just swap server. You save your precious time, buffs and effort.

The thing is, these people just want to grief and give others a bad time, so you're going to give them what they want if you interact with them.

Anyways, what I really meant to ask is: how do you propose the system can make a difference between the morally correct and wrong situations? I know PA usually takes the bandaid solution but hey if your idea is easy enough maybe they'll actually do it lolololol.