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RBF reward must reflect personal contribution
Apr 27, 2021, 12:35 (UTC)
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Last Edit : Apr 27, 2021, 12:39 (UTC)
# 1

RBF right now its just toxic filed that muliple toxicity and hate toward other players. Getting farmed by ghilie "speedhackers" with 300+ FPS ( on 75hz moninor) while half of your team simple don't care what's going on, they just joined for free rewards for ~15 min afk stand off. Simple change rewards to reflect of what you did into RBF, so those "nice players" who basically afk won't effect other players.

Last Edit : Apr 27, 2021, 12:59 (UTC)
# 2

First you admit that "speedhackers" aka players with NASA desktops are abusing the thrash engine BDO is builded on to win fights.

And then you saying that rewards should reflect personal contribution.

Ever thought that ranged classes dominate everything else in RBF or that Sorcerers with NASA desktops can i-frame 24/7 and 1 v 10 forever?

I guess not.

Last Edit : Apr 27, 2021, 13:18 (UTC)
# 3

While you can fight FPS exploiter by doing what he do ( don't forget back then Kakao CM officially respond that they not gonna ban anyone because of FPS),  you can't do anything  to "nice guys", they simple don't care. Independed rewards gonna serve great role. at first those FPS fuelled "speedhackers" will bring attention by recieving huge amount of rewards (remember how SMH was exposed) and will remove "nice guys" (i hope they won't join just to troll, because they won't recieve any rewrds)  from taking team slot for fighters.

Last Edit : Apr 27, 2021, 17:06 (UTC)
# 4

Get a job and get a pc? It doesn't take much to pull 200+ fps, and who uses a 75hz monitor lol, either 60, 120 or maybe 144 is the standard.

 

Though the fact you even mentioned a 75hz monitor just shows your ignorance of most everything you are talking about.

Last Edit : Apr 27, 2021, 20:22 (UTC)
# 5
On: Apr 27, 2021, 17:06 (UTC), Written by Synna

Get a job and get a pc? It doesn't take much to pull 200+ fps, and who uses a 75hz monitor lol, either 60, 120 or maybe 144 is the standard.

 

Though the fact you even mentioned a 75hz monitor just shows your ignorance of most everything you are talking about.

What about you reply ? You justifying FPS exploit ? This is thread about recieving rewards for what you done inside, not for just joined and stood afk/Q block. No PC or GS or 3rd party  assistanse  software (aka bot) gonna helps you win RBF if you team is "nice guys" aka do nothing but first to call you toxic and etc. Even if you superman and tryhard 20minutes, Billy, who is  58lvl stood afk for 20minutes on respawn, pressing 1 button every minute to prevent afk kick  will recieve same reward as you. And he's doesn't care if  you getting respawn camped or what ever.

Last Edit : Apr 27, 2021, 20:38 (UTC)
# 6
On: Apr 27, 2021, 13:18 (UTC), Written by Potato

While you can fight FPS exploiter by doing what he do ( don't forget back then Kakao CM officially respond that they not gonna ban anyone because of FPS),  you can't do anything  to "nice guys", they simple don't care. Independed rewards gonna serve great role. at first those FPS fuelled "speedhackers" will bring attention by recieving huge amount of rewards (remember how SMH was exposed) and will remove "nice guys" (i hope they won't join just to troll, because they won't recieve any rewrds)  from taking team slot for fighters.

Obtaining a high FPS isn't done with any exploits.  That is different from speed hacking, teleporting, scripting, duping etc.  It's really not something a company should ever ban for.  In a perfect world the game would be self limited to 60 FPS, but this is the real world and there is already evidence that attempting to do that is easier said than done.

 

Also any system that rewards players in that manner is a bit rough.  Especially, with things like Succ Wizard and past broken mechanics like Zerker.

 

I do get your point though and the entire premise being broken if people don't really even try to participate.  It's just not that easy to resolve.

That's what the auto kick timer is about.  But obviously that's not enough.

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Last Edit : Apr 27, 2021, 20:41 (UTC)
# 7
On: Apr 27, 2021, 20:22 (UTC), Written by Potato

Even if you superman and tryhard 20minutes, Billy, who is  58lvl stood afk for 20minutes on respawn, pressing 1 button every minute to prevent afk kick  will recieve same reward as you.

Good point.

 

I'd like a tiered reward system:

Red score players = 10 mil silver for win, 5 mil for loss.

Blue score players = 8 mil win, 4 mil loss

Yellow score players = 6 mil win, 3 mil loss

White score players = 3 mil win, 1.5 mil loss

Same RBF Seal rewards.

Assists count toward RBF score in some way, maybe 1/2 the points as securing the kill or something.

 

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Last Edit : Apr 27, 2021, 21:17 (UTC)
# 8
On: Apr 27, 2021, 20:38 (UTC), Written by Retteo

Obtaining a high FPS isn't done with any exploits.  That is different from speed hacking, teleporting, scripting, duping etc.  It's really not something a company should ever ban for.  In a perfect world the game would be self limited to 60 FPS, but this is the real world and there is already evidence that attempting to do that is easier said than done.

 

Also any system that rewards players in that manner is a bit rough.  Especially, with things like Succ Wizard and past broken mechanics like Zerker.

 

I do get your point though and the entire premise being broken if people don't really even try to participate.  It's just not that easy to resolve.

That's what the auto kick timer is about.  But obviously that's not enough.

Well there are guy out using third party programs to increase their fps and reduce network latency...

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Last Edit : Apr 28, 2021, 21:57 (UTC)
# 9

Good god, no. RBF is already a poorly implemented mode where people just suicide dive whoever has the most points and do very little to work together. It's decent 1vx training, but bad otherwise.

Last Edit : Apr 28, 2021, 22:14 (UTC)
# 10
On: Apr 28, 2021, 21:57 (UTC), Written by Xenon

Good god, no. RBF is already a poorly implemented mode where people just suicide dive whoever has the most points and do very little to work together. It's decent 1vx training, but bad otherwise.

Not even a good 1vX training ground. Map allows for a 30v30 60 people but the map so small a single caster can stand in the middle of the map and cover 40% of the maps whole area with his ranged skills. A 2 day old could have designed a more balanced map layout. And that not even discussion how fucked the winning condition is. It reminds me of MM in archeage were the one who wins is the one who stand afk at spawn doing nothing for 18 mins than spends the last 2 mins capping all the points when there all worth 100x more per cap.

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