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150 Imperial Boxes
Apr 27, 2021, 16:34 (UTC)
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Last Edit : Apr 27, 2021, 20:41 (UTC)
# 11
On: Apr 27, 2021, 20:23 (UTC), Written by Retteo

It is suspicious, but there are additional problems with that.  Mainly as far as I know there isn't any way to cheat the weight system.  So it would still take a few minutes for them to turn in all those boxes.  You also don't really want to use specialty weight equipment as that would ruin your mastery.  If it was 20-35 boxes gone that might make sense.  You could have max weight upgrades, VP, Crystals, food, shai, etc, but that's still limited.  In this case it's actually unknown as I only saw the 150 available.

Thing is that the reset timer can vary very drastically. I've had times that my timer was literal minutes after what I assume was the initial reset. I see people running between the storage keeper and the NPC while I sit with 0, and by the time reset actually happened for me (seen by the change in turn ins for other boxes than guru), the amount was already at 0. Good thing is that only seems to happen with very unstable net.

 

 

Last Edit : Apr 27, 2021, 20:56 (UTC)
# 12
On: Apr 27, 2021, 20:41 (UTC), Written by asdsadfas

Thing is that the reset timer can vary very drastically. I've had times that my timer was literal minutes after what I assume was the initial reset. I see people running between the storage keeper and the NPC while I sit with 0, and by the time reset actually happened for me (seen by the change in turn ins for other boxes than guru), the amount was already at 0. Good thing is that only seems to happen with very unstable net.

 

 

I agree, there is definitely something to this and others have witnessed similar results.  However, it still seems pretty odd.  For example, whoever did the turn in would have had to be at the location?  And even though I was already loaded into the area they where never visible?  I suppose I might not know due to the very nature of them being invisible, but this doesn't seem to be the case in other circumstances.

 

In other words I don't see other players zipping around like a speed hack.  Especially in low population areas that are already loaded.  This may occur on an initial loading.  But in this case I was already fully loaded into the game for a few minutes.

 

Anyway, if things are really that messed up it's just more reason for only limiting each player to their CP limit.  Additional contesting by Latency is the last thing the community needs for this.

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Last Edit : Apr 27, 2021, 21:46 (UTC)
# 13
On: Apr 27, 2021, 19:15 (UTC), Written by ArchaicTriad

?1

 

Dear PA,

 

Just remove the whole imperial system, its shit and we are tired of it...

if you don't want it then don't use it, I need my daily turn in money.

Last Edit : Apr 28, 2021, 02:17 (UTC)
# 14
On: Apr 27, 2021, 19:15 (UTC), Written by ArchaicTriad

?1

 

Dear PA,

 

Just remove the whole imperial system, its shit and we are tired of it...

Umm...no.  I like my imperial system thank you very much.

Last Edit : Apr 28, 2021, 02:38 (UTC)
# 15
On: Apr 27, 2021, 20:29 (UTC), Written by Retteo

I have tested several locations and times, but realisitcly this is just a bad system.  This is supposed to be a massively multiplayer game.  Ideally, there should be 20 people huddled together doing a turn in.  You know, people playing an online game "together".  Not just competing against each other for everything.

 

The original foundation of MMO's was to bring players together for a shared experience.  BDO really does a very poor job of it.

 

In the end allowing each person to do their own CP limit is just a better system.  Imagine how frail of a system it is when 1 single person coming into your location can essentially block you off.

 

Lets also NOT FORGET the OP.  You might say "we'll just switch servers".  Which now almost always leads to several minutes of reloading the game as it falls apart.  Not only does the game just completely fall apart due to multiple bugs, when that happens you're on a timer and can load into another server with 0 boxes already.

While the roots of the MMO games might have been to bring players together, the genre has moved on from that to be more and more single player friendly.  BDO isn't a game designed for the old MMO crowd.  And quite frankly, I don't have TIME for the older MMO style of gameplay.  BDO fits my lifestyle of popping in, gaming for a few here or there while AFKing the rest.  I'd rather they don't change it to something like WoW or EQ...thanks.  If I wanted that, I'd play those games.  I like my single player, mostly PvE, casual AF game thanks.

 

And no, you obviously have not tried all the locations of you would realize only 3 of them are used with any sort of regularity.  I have been telling people for YEARS that Valencia is always open and nobody uses it still.  I mean I'm glad because it means I can do turn in there whenever I want...but seriously, is keeping some meals in the storage and leaving an alt there so hard?  It's like people forgot how to do basic planning and logistics.  

 

The server limit is there as a silver control...however with the new hadum zones...not sure that is exactly valid anymore as basically all the silver from those zones is from vendoring and not very much from the market.  Places like SE where you get money from earring drops would actually remove silver from the economy through the market tax...but with these hadum zones...yeah I don't think giving lifeskillers a boost with personal turn ins would be that bad anymore...assuming those hadum zones don't get nerfed of course.  I think you actual brought up this point and yes, that has changed my stance on the personal turn ins.  That said, really, more than half the turn ins are not used as it is.  Make use of them.

 

 

Last Edit : Apr 28, 2021, 05:03 (UTC)
# 16
On: Apr 28, 2021, 02:38 (UTC), Written by ColdNapalm

While the roots of the MMO games might have been to bring players together, the genre has moved on from that to be more and more single player friendly.  BDO isn't a game designed for the old MMO crowd.  And quite frankly, I don't have TIME for the older MMO style of gameplay.  BDO fits my lifestyle of popping in, gaming for a few here or there while AFKing the rest.  I'd rather they don't change it to something like WoW or EQ...thanks.  If I wanted that, I'd play those games.  I like my single player, mostly PvE, casual AF game thanks.

 

And no, you obviously have not tried all the locations of you would realize only 3 of them are used with any sort of regularity.  I have been telling people for YEARS that Valencia is always open and nobody uses it still.  I mean I'm glad because it means I can do turn in there whenever I want...but seriously, is keeping some meals in the storage and leaving an alt there so hard?  It's like people forgot how to do basic planning and logistics.  

 

The server limit is there as a silver control...however with the new hadum zones...not sure that is exactly valid anymore as basically all the silver from those zones is from vendoring and not very much from the market.  Places like SE where you get money from earring drops would actually remove silver from the economy through the market tax...but with these hadum zones...yeah I don't think giving lifeskillers a boost with personal turn ins would be that bad anymore...assuming those hadum zones don't get nerfed of course.  I think you actual brought up this point and yes, that has changed my stance on the personal turn ins.  That said, really, more than half the turn ins are not used as it is.  Make use of them.

 

 

So in other words your the perfect sheep for PA. Your content with the poor qaulity lazy content think anyone who wants actual effort & care put into the game should quit, and enjoy playing an MMORPG like a mobile game. Why don't you just play a mobile game there less toxic (something you keep activity complaining about on these forums.) don't have forced PVP (something you keep activity complaining about on these forums.) and fit all your needs perfectly, plus there less P2W than BDO is. So ya go download a mobile game if you want a mobile game this is an MMORPG not a mobile game.

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Last Edit : Apr 28, 2021, 07:58 (UTC)
# 17
On: Apr 28, 2021, 05:01 (UTC), Written by Vulpin

So in other words your the perfect sheep for PA. Your content with the poor qaulity lazy content think anyone who wants actual effort & care put into the game should quit, and enjoy playing an MMORPG like a mobile game. Why don't you just play a mobile game there less toxic (something you keep activity complaining about on these forums.) don't have forced PVP (something you keep activity complaining about on these forums.) and fit all your needs perfectly, plus there less P2W than BDO is. So ya go download a mobile game if you want a mobile game this is an MMORPG not a mobile game.

Or...you can go find a game YOU like and leave this one alone that plenty of people actually like.  Also I don't like mobile games...thanks.  And considering I am paying something like $1 per every 10 hours of active play in this game...I somehow doubt I am the kind of sheep PA wants unless they want to go broke.  BDO is a great game if you are casual AF and don't feel the need to be the best right away.  Have impulse control issues?  Yeah you are the sheeps that PA wants.  People like you who think you actually have to spend lots of money on a game like this is what PA wants.  So stop projecting you idiocy on me...k.

Last Edit : Apr 28, 2021, 11:09 (UTC)
# 18
Écrit le : 28 avr. 2021, 07:58 (UTC), par : ColdNapalm

Or...you can go find a game YOU like and leave this one alone that plenty of people actually like.  Also I don't like mobile games...thanks.  And considering I am paying something like $1 per every 10 hours of active play in this game...I somehow doubt I am the kind of sheep PA wants unless they want to go broke.  BDO is a great game if you are casual AF and don't feel the need to be the best right away.  Have impulse control issues?  Yeah you are the sheeps that PA wants.  People like you who think you actually have to spend lots of money on a game like this is what PA wants.  So stop projecting you idiocy on me...k.



Last Edit : Apr 28, 2021, 16:05 (UTC)
# 19
On: Apr 28, 2021, 02:38 (UTC), Written by ColdNapalm

While the roots of the MMO games might have been to bring players together, the genre has moved on from that to be more and more single player friendly.  BDO isn't a game designed for the old MMO crowd.  And quite frankly, I don't have TIME for the older MMO style of gameplay.  BDO fits my lifestyle of popping in, gaming for a few here or there while AFKing the rest.  I'd rather they don't change it to something like WoW or EQ...thanks.  If I wanted that, I'd play those games.  I like my single player, mostly PvE, casual AF game thanks.

 

And no, you obviously have not tried all the locations of you would realize only 3 of them are used with any sort of regularity.  I have been telling people for YEARS that Valencia is always open and nobody uses it still.  I mean I'm glad because it means I can do turn in there whenever I want...but seriously, is keeping some meals in the storage and leaving an alt there so hard?  It's like people forgot how to do basic planning and logistics.  

 

The server limit is there as a silver control...however with the new hadum zones...not sure that is exactly valid anymore as basically all the silver from those zones is from vendoring and not very much from the market.  Places like SE where you get money from earring drops would actually remove silver from the economy through the market tax...but with these hadum zones...yeah I don't think giving lifeskillers a boost with personal turn ins would be that bad anymore...assuming those hadum zones don't get nerfed of course.  I think you actual brought up this point and yes, that has changed my stance on the personal turn ins.  That said, really, more than half the turn ins are not used as it is.  Make use of them.

 

 

My only concern with group content is that developers nearly always botch it so it becomes by far the premium progression route.  However, grouping today doesn't mean reverting back to older systems.  I still remember people spending hours looking for a party just to play Everquest.  While I personally didn't have that issue I never want to see that exist in a game again.

 

Today's grouping is often quite different.  You could freely join a Sausan rotation at any time and jump in/out.  The party didn't "disolve because the healer left".  Hadum is structured to support it.  You can solo grind in multiple locations and just move in/out of a party if desired.

 

I get what you say about the casual experience, but it's still funny to think of BDO as a "casual game" while true end game competition takes an enourmous amount of investment.

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Last Edit : Apr 28, 2021, 17:18 (UTC)
# 20
On: Apr 28, 2021, 07:58 (UTC), Written by ColdNapalm

Or...you can go find a game YOU like and leave this one alone that plenty of people actually like.  Also I don't like mobile games...thanks.  And considering I am paying something like $1 per every 10 hours of active play in this game...I somehow doubt I am the kind of sheep PA wants unless they want to go broke.  BDO is a great game if you are casual AF and don't feel the need to be the best right away.  Have impulse control issues?  Yeah you are the sheeps that PA wants.  People like you who think you actually have to spend lots of money on a game like this is what PA wants.  So stop projecting you idiocy on me...k.

Idk do you like this game. All I see u do is complain about it on the forums an toxicity attack overs to justify your own toxic. Than you ask for toxic players to back up your toxicity so you can all ruin threads together. I mean look your Boy friend simley here praising your toxic with more toxicity.

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