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# 111

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Last Edit : Apr 30, 2021, 07:26 (UTC)
# 112
Écrit le : 29 avr. 2021, 16:14 (UTC), par : Bleach

That Wiki is directly linked off their Official Website and managed as such. Thus, making it an official source. I would think that the https://www.naeu.playblackdesert.com/ portion would be a dead give away.

 

Do you have arguments based on BDO functionment to demonstrate why players should be forced to accepte forced pk when it bring nothing at all on a systemic game level.

 

 

I do,

 

The official website advertises it as such.

 

https://www.naeu.playblackdesert.com/en-US/Wiki?wikiNo=86#Advanced%20Guide

 

https://www.naeu.playblackdesert.com/  <------- nice and bright for you

 

Done embarrassing yourself yet? Or do you plan to try and move the goalpost again?

Still doesnt change, most of the time wiki are wrote by "user" and not "creator", = its not PA official words in that case.

So as i already said :

On: Apr 29, 2021, 14:58 (UTC), Written by Woots

that wiki only say : "in the game its possible to force pk", and it doesnt say "you will have to use forced pk to fight over limited ressource"

it neither say :" BDO need forced pk on various systemic level point to create a strong and deep bridge between pve & owpvp" ( like AA do for exemple )

 

So, it still change nothing to what i've said. Forced pk option is in the game, yet there is still no reasons for it to be forced on everyone as it only rely on players personal wish and fantasy to use it.

 

And also doesnt change from a iota my point :

Écrit le : 29 avr. 2021, 13:54 (UTC), par : Woots

BDO would first need to resolve around owpvp like ArcheAge for exemple.

 

BDO :

No pve systems need forced pk to function ( hello Olivia & seasonal where no systems at all was reworked & changed, all spot & life skills behave the exact same way )

forced pk bring nothing at all ( no xp, no drop, no sp, no particular pve advantage = no more mob spawn, not more loot etc etc )

 

&

 

So, i still see nothing that contraindicate the pve channelS request. Unless you have arguments based on BDO functionment to demonstrate why players should be forced to accepte forced pk when it bring nothing at all on a systemic game level.

 

QED : you still bring nothing to justify why forced pk should be forcefully accepted by everyone.

 

 like that wiki certainly speak about horse racing, it yet doesnt mean everyone have to be forced to do horse racing.

Your point never held and still dont has you still have no argument except a few words from a user-wrote wiki ( unless proved its officialy wrote by PA ) only saying the game has a forced pk and nothing else.

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Last Edit : Apr 30, 2021, 07:33 (UTC)
# 113
On: Apr 30, 2021, 07:19 (UTC), Written by Woots

Still doesnt change, most of the time wiki are wrote by "user" and not "creator", = its not PA official words in that case.

So as i already said :

And also doesnt change from a iota my point :

 

QED : you still bring nothing to justify why forced pk should be forcefully accepted by everyone.

Because you opt into it when you level up to 50 from 49, the game tells you, you can and will be attacked by other players.  It's really not that hard of a concept to grasp.  You accepted the ability to be attacked at any time.  If you don't want to PvP, don't level up to 50, otherwise you are subject to forced PvP anywhere outside of a safe zone, which is also included in the quest text.

 

It would be like, you enter a Steakhouse, There is a sign on the door that says Steakhouse, we serve steak here.  Then when you are seated the hostess tells you, Everyone must order a steak, then when it comes time to order you ask for a vegan meal.  They told you repeatedly you must order a steak, that's your fault for not realizing that you must order a steak and instead request a vegan meal.

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Last Edit : Apr 30, 2021, 07:34 (UTC)
# 114
On: Apr 30, 2021, 07:26 (UTC), Written by Werbs

Because you opt into it when you level up to 50 from 49, the game tells you,

You mean that option that come from day1 BDO where level "max" was 50 & +15gear max so players was "enabling" owpvp only when they was fully gear up & ready ?

 

ok.

 

Find something else.

 

And it still doesnt change my point, please go back and read, i've copy pasted it enough time, it should be clear enough that even your "But but but but but you have the level 50 quest dooh" still change nothing.

The level 50 "quest" ( even if you ignore where it really come from and the BDO situation at that time ) still only is an arbitrary "lock" / "force hand" that still arent related to something really needed by the game ( like a Moba need the pve & pvp part otherwise the game should be fully reworked )

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Last Edit : Apr 30, 2021, 07:35 (UTC)
# 115
On: Apr 30, 2021, 07:28 (UTC), Written by Woots

You mean that option that come from day1 BDO where level "max" was 50 & +15gear max so players was "enabling" owpvp only when they was fully gear up & ready ?

 

ok.

 

Find something else. And it still doesnt change my point, please go back and read, i've copy pasted it enough time, it should be clear enough that even your "But but but but but you have the level 50 quest dooh" still change nothing to my point.

Doesn't matter, if you want to say the level of forced PvP needs to be raised, that is a different discussion.

 

Also nice, edit out every part of my post that proves your stances is incorrect.

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Last Edit : Apr 30, 2021, 07:51 (UTC)
# 116
On: Apr 30, 2021, 07:26 (UTC), Written by Werbs

Everyone must order a steak,

Such restaurant doesnt exist. You always are free to choose ( except if that restaurant only serve ONE product only and absolutely nothing else at all )

But as its never the case and BDO dont only serve "foreced pk" your comparison attempt still doesnt make sense nor work.

 

Considering the "forced pk importance" in the game & for all others pve systems it would be more like if the forced pk was the pepper bottle thing on each table.

= there is no reason user should be forced to add pepper into their plate because its on the table.

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Last Edit : Apr 30, 2021, 07:52 (UTC)
# 117
On: Apr 30, 2021, 07:35 (UTC), Written by Werbs

Doesn't matter

It doesnt matter as you are totaly unable to contradict the point that change everything

Let me copy paste to you too.

 

Écrit le : 29 avr. 2021, 13:54 (UTC), par : Woots

BDO would first need to resolve around owpvp like ArcheAge for exemple.

 

BDO :

No pve systems need forced pk to function ( hello Olivia & seasonal where no systems at all was reworked & changed, all spot & life skills behave the exact same way )

forced pk bring nothing at all ( no xp, no drop, no sp, no particular pve advantage = no more mob spawn, not more loot etc etc )

 

&

 

So, i still see nothing that contraindicate the pve channelS request. Unless you have arguments based on BDO functionment to demonstrate why players should be forced to accepte forced pk when it bring nothing at all on a systemic game level.

So i will ask the aboveto you too.

As speaking about the level 50 quest change nothing ( Olivia & season also has the level 50 quest, yet forced pk is disabled in thoses server and the game still doesnt give a damned crap about forced pk beeing disabled )

 

 

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Last Edit : Apr 30, 2021, 08:31 (UTC)
# 119
On: Apr 30, 2021, 08:09 (UTC), Written by Werbs

You opt into PvP at level 50,

On: Apr 30, 2021, 07:45 (UTC), Written by Woots

Olivia & season also has the level 50 quest, yet forced pk is disabled in thoses server and the game still doesnt give a damned crap about forced pk beeing disabled )

Still change nothing, the only thing locking you is the quest, its still has no care if there is forced pk or not. Even the game itself just totaly negate your argument attempt

 

You really need to get out of that cognitive biais. Its not because you would force anyone entering a car to listen music very loud that the loud music become necessary to enter / drive a car.

And that's what you really seem totaly unable to understand. Its the "necessity" "importance" for the game on a systemic level of the "forced pk" that's going to really determine everything ( like a Moba need the pve & pvp otherwise the game would need to be fully reworked to function again if you "remove" one element, BDO DONT CARE if you disable forced pk, therefore forced pk isnt necessary for the game to properly function = there is then no reason anyone should be forced to accept that )

 

 

 

 

So doesnt change :

On: Apr 29, 2021, 13:54 (UTC), Written by Woots

BDO doesnt resolve around owpvp like ArcheAge for exemple.

 

BDO :

No pve systems need forced pk to function ( hello Olivia & seasonal where no systems at all was reworked & changed, all spot & life skills behave the exact same way )

forced pk bring nothing at all ( no xp, no drop, no sp, no particular pve advantage = no more mob spawn, not more loot etc etc )

 

and you still dont answer

Écrit le : 29 avr. 2021, 13:54 (UTC), par : Woots

Do you have arguments based on BDO functionment to demonstrate why players should be forced to accepte forced pk when it bring nothing at all on a systemic game level.

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