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People who want PvE servers
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# 171

BTW

Écrit le : 30 avr. 2021, 19:16 (UTC), par : PeaceInChaos

 

I have no freaking second account. Holy sh**. Simply, not my style.

Funny you feel directly targeted by that considering i only said :

Écrit le : 30 avr. 2021, 16:46 (UTC), par : Woots

yeah apparently bleach guy is a second account of some proud forced pk lover that come under desguise to troll.

I mean, you see what kind of person represent the forced pk side :)

 

When i only said that its a second account of one of the forced pk lover ( as he try so "hard" to defend the "forced pk side" ) trolling. I dont know who is he, and i dont care, if that person have nothing more interesting to do with his life, i mean, whatever.

Only PA moderator or whatever GM can check that.

 

After, that's indeed not a good sign for you, as only culprit dont have a peace of mind and can jump on something that isnt even directed to them.

( especialy when i didnt even bothered really read your drama with Vulpin )

 

So yeah.

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# 172
On: May 1, 2021, 08:36 (UTC), Written by Factorial

 

Again, assumptions without basis. You guys are worried about an imaginary problem with lots of "if this" and "if that" padded in as crutches. Why speculate on the imaginary when it's so fruitless?

 

By now, from every time a new server has been created, you SHOULD know exactly what pearl abyss does. It's so easy that I don't think I even need to explain it to anyone. Just look at past behavior when it comes to introducing different server modes. One thing always remains: there is no net loss of resources, period.

 


Someone made a bad analogy and I clearly pointed it out with blunt force. It's indefensible in every way even by any stretch of the imagination. I would have used a much better example like this:  "Hey, people who want PVE servers, do you go to a gun store and demand ice cream to be served?" It's a much, much more poignant allusion. 

 

Even with that said, MMORPGs have included PVE/PVP servers, period. PVE/PVP to an MMORPG isn't something magical/new/radical/controversial, it's just another attribute. It is, literally, in the game. You are defending an erroneous premise from the very start. Why?

 

 

Explain how it would be possible to add PvE only servers that does not take resources away from PvPvE servers?

 

As for MMORPGs have included ....  Yada yada.  You forget one thing BDO is PvPvE with no separation in servers.  PA even advertises it as PvPvE not PvP or PvE from the day of launch you had to Opt into PvP to go beyond a certain point in progression, you have to be a blithering idiot to believe that PA is going to change that stance ever.  You dont strike me as an idiot. Keep in mind PA is a Korean company which means that BDO is subject to Korean culture when the game direction is considered.  You can kick and scream all you want, but OWPvP is how they envision their game to go and how they have designed it.  At the end of the day PvP is the core of BDO, with the rest of the game adding ways to get to PvP.

 

I have a challenge for you, name one aspect of the gameplay that is not a road to PvP.

Last Edit : May 1, 2021, 10:58 (UTC)
# 173
On: May 1, 2021, 10:49 (UTC), Written by NarcoSleepy

 

 

I have a challenge for you, name one aspect of the gameplay that is not a road to PvP.

Too easy. Every aspect of bdo is not a road to pvp FOR ME and no doubt for many others. I have no intention of ever participating in pvp.

 

 

 

Last Edit : May 1, 2021, 11:25 (UTC)
# 174
On: May 1, 2021, 10:58 (UTC), Written by Altos

Too easy. Every aspect of bdo is not a road to pvp FOR ME and no doubt for many others. I have no intention of ever participating in pvp.

 

 

 

We are not talking about you, me, or the fly on the wall, we are talking about the game, name one aspect of the game that was not intended as a path to PvP?  

Last Edit : May 1, 2021, 11:25 (UTC)
# 175
On: May 1, 2021, 10:58 (UTC), Written by Altos

Too easy. Every aspect of bdo is not a road to pvp FOR ME and no doubt for many others. I have no intention of ever participating in pvp.

 

 

 

We are not talking about you, me, or the fly on the wall, we are talking about the game, name one aspect of the game that was not intended as a path to PvP?  

Last Edit : May 1, 2021, 11:43 (UTC)
# 176
On: May 1, 2021, 08:36 (UTC), Written by Woots

And most of the restaurant would do so as steakhouse also have side dish.

Also, you are wrong with your  "comparison" as to be correct you should say : No special room would be requested because no one would try to shove meat in your mouth ( as you know outside of that forum ppl are able to understand that having someone trying to force something on you isnt a path to use ), which is why the forced pk create issue among players not like that. (  if there was a "no one can try forced pk on my character" option, i'am sure no one would care to "smell" pk all around )

 

Bad "strawman unable to answer his own premise" corrected.

Oh btw, speaking about strawman & strawman's premise you still havent answer and still try to dodge

 

You mean, you still manage to avoid all the answers I recently gave? That's worrying. But check better, and don't worry, I won't blame you. 

Not to mention that you should make sure that your own premise works, until now you only showed a "sandcastl-ish" reasoning. First things first. 

 

You still have to bear with the "sight and smell" of owpvp, and if your goal is to be isolated with other "vegan pve eaters" , isn't it more logical to directly go in a "vegan pve Mmorpg" ?

 

On: May 1, 2021, 08:36 (UTC), Written by Factorial

 

Again, assumptions without basis. You guys are worried about an imaginary problem with lots of "if this" and "if that" padded in as crutches. Why speculate on the imaginary when it's so fruitless?

 

By now, from every time a new server has been created, you SHOULD know exactly what pearl abyss does. It's so easy that I don't think I even need to explain it to anyone. Just look at past behavior when it comes to introducing different server modes. One thing always remains: there is no net loss of resources, period.

 


Someone made a bad analogy and I clearly pointed it out with blunt force. It's indefensible in every way even by any stretch of the imagination. I would have used a much better example like this:  "Hey, people who want PVE servers, do you go to a gun store and demand ice cream to be served?" It's a much, much more poignant allusion. 

 

Even with that said, MMORPGs have included PVE/PVP servers, period. PVE/PVP to an MMORPG isn't something magical/new/radical/controversial, it's just another attribute. It is, literally, in the game. You are defending an erroneous premise from the very start. Why?

 

On a side note: the only place gun stores and ice cream mix are in the USA. When you buy ice cream here, you get seven free guns. fReEdoM!

 

Well, you also played with this analogy and I played along with you, no need to be angry.

 

Still, mixing pve and pvp is a game design choice in this game. That's the premise, pvpve. So if other games choose to separate both aspects, fine for them but why should BDO be forced to apply the same reasoning.

And what should we think about "if this game gets pure pve channels, it will work, for sure". Isn't that a pure assumption? ^^

 

On: May 1, 2021, 10:58 (UTC), Written by Altos

Too easy. Every aspect of bdo is not a road to pvp FOR ME and no doubt for many others. I have no intention of ever participating in pvp.

 

Unless you try to make some high-level grind pve, because in this case being engaged in owpvp will be a possibility to you too, no matter what you think.

Oops, it seems pve is still a big part of the game. 

Last Edit : May 1, 2021, 12:08 (UTC)
# 177
On: May 1, 2021, 11:25 (UTC), Written by NarcoSleepy

We are not talking about you, me, or the fly on the wall, we are talking about the game, name one aspect of the game that was not intended as a path to PvP?  

My answer stays the same. I play this game, I don't pvp, therefore there is no part of the game that is a path to pvp FOR ME. I don't care about how others perceive the game as they care not about how I see it either, and seeing that it is a sandbox there is no intention other than what the individual decides.

Last Edit : May 1, 2021, 12:06 (UTC)
# 178
On: May 1, 2021, 11:43 (UTC), Written by Sadalsuud

You mean, you still manage to avoid all the answers I recently gave? That's worrying. But check better, and don't worry, I won't blame you. 

Not to mention that you should make sure that your own premise works, until now you only showed a "sandcastl-ish" reasoning. First things first. 

 

You still have to bear with the "sight and smell" of owpvp, and if your goal is to be isolated with other "vegan pve eaters" , isn't it more logical to directly go in a "vegan pve Mmorpg" ?

 

Well, you also played with this analogy and I played along with you, no need to be angry.

 

Still, mixing pve and pvp is a game design choice in this game. That's the premise, pvpve. So if other games choose to separate both aspects, fine for them but why should BDO be forced to apply the same reasoning.

And what should we think about "if this game gets pure pve channels, it will work, for sure". Isn't that a pure assumption? ^^

 

Unless you try to make some high-level grind pve, because in this case being engaged in owpvp will be a possibility to you too, no matter what you think.

Oops, it seems pve is still a big part of the game. 

Don't grind ever. No matter what you think I will not pvp, yes I may  be attacked ( in fact I have been many times) and yes I may die if I cannot log out quickly enough, but I am still not partaking in pvp. I never fight back so I am not pvp'ing. The person attacking me is not pvp'ing either as PVP entails two people at least to be fighting. Oops looks like pve is a big part of the game, in fact it is the only part of the game for me.

Last Edit : May 1, 2021, 12:43 (UTC)
# 179
On: May 1, 2021, 12:00 (UTC), Written by Altos

My answer stays the same. I play this game, I don't pvp, therefore there is no part of the game that is a path to pvp FOR ME. I don't care about how others perceive the game as they care not about how I see it either, and seeing that it is a sandbox there is no intention other than what the individual decides.

We're not talking about you we are talking about the game's design, why are you dodging the question?

Last Edit : May 1, 2021, 12:49 (UTC)
# 180
On: May 1, 2021, 12:06 (UTC), Written by Altos

Don't grind ever. No matter what you think I will not pvp, yes I may  be attacked ( in fact I have been many times) and yes I may die if I cannot log out quickly enough, but I am still not partaking in pvp. I never fight back so I am not pvp'ing. The person attacking me is not pvp'ing either as PVP entails two people at least to be fighting. Oops looks like pve is a big part of the game, in fact it is the only part of the game for me.

You're still engaged in owpvp, as I said and you confirmed it. Thanks.

 

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