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People who want PvE servers
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# 201
On: May 1, 2021, 15:25 (UTC), Written by Amodin
My question to all the anti-PvE people in this game:
Why do you even care if people want a PvE server? Are you scared it's going to take away your prey that you pick off at spots?
Are you afraid that you won't have something missing from your lives that you can't enjoy the game as much as they do?
I mean really, why are you people arguing about this? WHO CARES?! DAoC even created a pure PvE server and they were doing this long before BDO!
All I see is a topic for you to bitch about because you ran out of something to bitch about. If someone wants to play on a PvE server - let em! You don't have to play there, you aren't being forced into their rules, you can ignore it all and just continue to play where you are.
Simple.
If they are going to ADD a PvE server...honestly, I don't have as much of an issue with that. Key word being ADD...not convert an existing one. You think they will add a server? Yeah...they won't.
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# 202
Écrit le : 1 mai 2021, 14:16 (UTC), par : Bleach
Official sources have been presented and even proven to be official sources. You continue to either make excuses on why it "doesnt count" or straight out ingore it when its pointed out.
You sir, have nothing of that.
Wiki still are site wrote most of the time by a community, therefore unless proved otherwise the BDO wiki isnt directly wrote by PA studio members, therefore its not a PA official source, happy or not, it doesnt change that.
And in the end it doesnt matter who wrote that, as it doesnt change :
Écrit le : 29 avr. 2021, 14:58 (UTC), par : Woots
that wiki only say : "in the game its possible to force pk",
But doesnt say
-"you will have to use forced pk to fight over limited ressource"
Nor neither say :
-" BDO need forced pk on various systemic level point to create a strong and deep bridge between pve & owpvp" ( like AA do for exemple )
And the "wiki doesnt say" was the point you tried to make, but no surprise you have no fact to back up all that.
1- can you contradict ?
On: Apr 29, 2021, 13:54 (UTC), Written by Woots
BDO doesnt resolve around owpvp like ArcheAge for exemple.
BDO :
No pve systems need forced pk to function ( hello Olivia & seasonal where no systems at all was reworked & changed, all spot & life skills behave the exact same way )
forced pk bring nothing at all ( no xp, no drop, no sp, no particular pve advantage = no more mob spawn, not more loot etc etc )
Showing forced pk isnt necessary for the game to function properly = only depend on personal wish = no reason to be forced on anyone and its only depend on personal fantasy.
2- do you have :
Écrit le : 29 avr. 2021, 13:54 (UTC), par : Woots
Do you have arguments based on BDO functionment to demonstrate why players should be forced to accepte forced pk when it bring nothing at all on a systemic game level.
As for now, you still provide :
no explanation,
no demonstration,
You just try to hold tight to a point as if your life depend on it that change nothing at all to what you are requested to demonstrate that would give reason to your premise or wish, whch is : forced pk shouldnt be avoided, and and keep be forced on everyone even on thoses disliking it.
For now, you still brought NO argument after 7 pages beside your crappy comparison with steakhouse that doesnt even hold. I understand that's your second account to "hide yourself" & act as a troll ( that's an interesting maturity & courage you are displaying here BTW ) but still.
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# 203
On: May 2, 2021, 05:40 (UTC), Written by ColdNapalm
If they are going to ADD a PvE server...honestly, I don't have as much of an issue with that. Key word being ADD...not convert an existing one. You think they will add a server? Yeah...they won't.
Even if they "ADD" a new PvE only server, I would rather they put that server in as a normal server.
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May 2, 2021, 11:18 (UTC)
# 204
On: May 2, 2021, 08:46 (UTC), Written by Werbs
Even if they "ADD" a new PvE only server, I would rather they put that server in as a normal server.
I would too honestly...but really, I won't complain if the added server was a PvE...despite my preference. What I really don't want is conversion of existing servers to PvE only ones.
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# 205
On: May 1, 2021, 21:08 (UTC), Written by Factorial
This is false, once again. With a PVE server introduction, there is a shift in population: PVErs would go to the PVE server, which allows the place they left to go to PVPers. There is no net loss in anything. You are equating a shift in population as a loss in resources. It's bogus. When a PVE server is made, no one loses anything.
There wont be net shift, but what about the changes PVE server brings. Do you consider that if one pve server comes to reality it wont work and then people demands pve server will want to rework spot to be able to work. Because at this point we all know that BDO dont work as PVE MMO. It will work as single play game. And if devs deside to change the spots, then they have split resources to work on two types of servers so not braking the PVPVE Idea. And here is your lost of resources.
Ofc devs can add pve servers to equal pvpve servers. But with this concept there are some problems. It simply kills the need of karma and bounty sistem. And its strongly against the idea of the devs, the game to be PVPVE.
Making changes to existing and established concept is not so easy as most people thing. Look at Arsha.
Alsoo because some people posting here dont know how simple things work, the info in Wikipedia might come from players but every game studio checks the info and redacted if there is wrong or unfull info. And in BDO case, when there is link on the game website to wiki labeled as official wiki info, makes it clear.
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# 207
On: May 2, 2021, 16:28 (UTC), Written by Bleach
But you'll ignore these like you continue to do so.
So you admit that even official sources arent good enough? Took you long enough
I do have an argument to end this entire argument?
Ready for this? You may not like it.
You had PvE servers. Thats right. Season servers were PvE servers. They will probably come back, PA did say they would. But guess what? PA experimented with PvE servers, and deemed them not worth their time at the moment. Probably because of all the ruleset changes just to make it fair to the core game? Again, who knows.
PA themselves heard your cries for PvE servers, tried them, and at the end, said "lolnope"
So when they do add season servers back one day, you'll have 0 argument. These threads popped up even during season servers. People had PvE servers. PA had put special rulesets on them to make them fair to the core game........ and they still werent good enough. What does that tell us? You dont want seprate servers, you want PvP gone.
So no argument is really needed. Does that hurt inside? I bet it does. You'll get your pve servers when season servers come back.
But hey, if this game is to hard for you, you can try this one....it should be your difficulty level
https://www.wizard101.com/game/worlds-spiral
Imagine thinking that hoping luck favors you is difficult gameplay. My goodness gamers like yourself display why you people crutch on games completely built around P2W RNG PvP. I'm willing to bet people like yourself wouldn't last 30 days in a MMO that content blocks you with skillchecks instead of dumb luck. Damn braindead wannabe gamers.
DId you know unlike some of the popular Western MMOs. That BDO has very little mechanical difficulty. You can give a highly impaired person a 720 GS S-tier 1v1 character and they will 99 out of 100 times shit all over a eSport champion with a 550 GS bottom tier character. So much for difficulty. One person can just log in and do nothing everyday and get 600 GS handed to them VIA RNG. While another one can bust their ass off grinding for 3,000 hours and not even be close to 581 GS. I could go on but I won't. Bottom line is BDO is one of the easiest MMOs out right now. More so for the people spending $100,000+ to get instantly geared to win.
Imagine acting big and bad because they simply got lucky to progress in a P2W RNG based game. LEL
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# 208
On: May 2, 2021, 18:03 (UTC), Written by FearlessMe
Imagine thinking that hoping luck favors you is difficult gameplay. My goodness gamers like yourself display why you people crutch on games completely built around P2W RNG PvP. I'm willing to bet people like yourself wouldn't last 30 days in a MMO that content blocks you with skillchecks instead of dumb luck. Damn braindead wannabe gamers.
DId you know unlike some of the popular Western MMOs. That BDO has very little mechanical difficulty. You can give a highly impaired person a 720 GS S-tier 1v1 character and they will 99 out of 100 times shit all over a eSport champion with a 550 GS bottom tier character. So much for difficulty. One person can just log in and do nothing everyday and get 600 GS handed to them VIA RNG. While another one can bust their ass off grinding for 3,000 hours and not even be close to 581 GS. I could go on but I won't. Bottom line is BDO is one of the easiest MMOs out right now. More so for the people spending $100,000+ to get instantly geared to win.
Imagine acting big and bad because they simply got lucky to progress in a P2W RNG based game. LEL
And yet you quiting this easy MMO every week because you are unable to do what othere people do without cash or rng. To make a 600 - 650 GS char and be competitive with plaing the game. But even if you that you will complain again, because you showed in your videos that you are simply bad at PvP and instead to sit on your ass, train and make that gear you do what is more easy - quit and complain in forums. Yes clearly BDO needs more skills than some people have. You are the proof.
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# 209
On: May 2, 2021, 18:03 (UTC), Written by FearlessMe
Imagine thinking that hoping luck favors you is difficult gameplay. My goodness gamers like yourself display why you people crutch on games completely built around P2W RNG PvP. I'm willing to bet people like yourself wouldn't last 30 days in a MMO that content blocks you with skillchecks instead of dumb luck. Damn braindead wannabe gamers.
DId you know unlike some of the popular Western MMOs. That BDO has very little mechanical difficulty. You can give a highly impaired person a 720 GS S-tier 1v1 character and they will 99 out of 100 times shit all over a eSport champion with a 550 GS bottom tier character. So much for difficulty. One person can just log in and do nothing everyday and get 600 GS handed to them VIA RNG. While another one can bust their ass off grinding for 3,000 hours and not even be close to 581 GS. I could go on but I won't. Bottom line is BDO is one of the easiest MMOs out right now. More so for the people spending $100,000+ to get instantly geared to win.
Imagine acting big and bad because they simply got lucky to progress in a P2W RNG based game. LEL
Your reasoning about the stuff was right before the arrival of the new marketplace. Now, it does not work at all, unless a player really wants to grind a lot in order to bet everything, everytime.
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May 2, 2021, 20:03 (UTC)
# 210
On: May 2, 2021, 18:41 (UTC), Written by Sadalsuud
Your reasoning about the stuff was right before the arrival of the new marketplace. Now, it does not work at all, unless a player really wants to grind a lot in order to bet everything, everytime.
Mean while I know someone who been playing for 3 months who 1 tapped 3 PENS and managed to get 3 Vell's hearts in under a 168 hours. But ya there zero RNG progress in this game lol. Nothing like being fucked over by pure RNG for 4 years than fighting someone that got RNG carried for 4 months straight on a 5 month old account that can just two shot you. Ya lots of skill in this game with zero RNG am I right?
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