Give me one reason why should I repeat my self for 423545 time, and to repeat what so many other people told you.But I will make exeption. I know it wont matter becase you will refuse to admit it again.

About the things you just wrote:
The Pk dont change the mob spawn rate, it dont change the number of the mobs, it dont change the amount of xp that sertain mobs gives. But it change your ability to gain xp and silver.If you are dead you dont get xp and silver. If there are 3 people on one spot and you kill them all you gain more xp and silver.

 See how easy you were proven wrong. Again. And again. And Im sure what will be your responce. Because you responce everytime the same. We you you have new trend -quoting yourself. So what its gona be? Pure ignore? Call me stupid that that this proves nothing and you are wright? Like someone mentioned before, every DFS for spot proves you wrong. Proves that PvP affects PvE.

So you say pk dont change pve, at least you clear what thoses clown were trying to imply.

But only (potentialy act on player only, even if you have way to still grind no matter what, with channel change / spot change / and even keep coming back as during that "pk waste of time", no one will actualy grind. )

But as you guys like to repeat,  BDO isnt a race but a marathon, a few minutes inbetween the mutltiple of hours you can grind, it then doesnt matter ( unless that's your personal obsession to play the best spreadsheet simulator, but i assume you certainly are aware that not everyone care about that )

TL;DR pk dont change pve, so are bound to no others systems, you also seem unable to say otherwise, therefore, its only your personal wish and personal conception that make you say and believe that pk is necesary.

Therefore, as a conception isnt necessary shared by everyone, it all come back to always the same thing :

- Not necessary for the game to be & function, Not necessary at all as it depend on personal conception to use  it, So no reason to have that forced on everyone.

Thanks you keep confirm what i'am saying since always.

So you say pk dont change pve, at least you clear what thoses clown were trying to imply.

But only (potentialy act on player only, even if you have way to still grind no matter what, with channel change / spot change / and even keep coming back as during that "pk waste of time", no one will actualy grind. )

But as you guys like to repeat,  BDO isnt a race but a marathon, a few minutes inbetween the mutltiple of hours you can grind, it then doesnt matter ( unless that's your personal obsession to play the best spreadsheet simulator, but i assume you certainly are aware that not everyone care about that )

TL;DR pk dont change pve, so are bound to no others systems, you also seem unable to say otherwise, therefore, its only your personal wish and personal conception that make you say and believe that pk is necesary.

Therefore, as a conception isnt necessary shared by everyone, it all come back to always the same thing :

- Not necessary for the game to be & function, Not necessary at all as it depend on personal conception to use  it, So no reason to have that forced on everyone.

Thanks you keep confirm what i'am saying since always.

" Because you responce everytime the same. We you you have new trend -quoting yourself." Ofc, i quote myself, i'am not going to waste my time re-write everytime the same thing as ppl are totaly unable to stick to the point and try to answer none sense as in their lack of arguments, their personal pride push them to deny that i'am correct as it goes again their person wish & conception for BDO owpvp"

And that's why i stick with BDO systems exemple as its the only impartial and factual reality that will determine the importance  of "something" ( here forced pk ), as personal conception doesnt allow you to be "more right" than anyone else, nor decide what it have to be done.

And that's you "forced pk addict" issue, you only consider your personal conception as "that's how it have to be and how it is", and why you are always incorrect, and you end to be so mad about me as i just slap the reality of the game in your face, and you dont seem to be able to stand that.

Except that only one additional second of spot possession is already proving my point, not to mention that your reasoning is based on the idea that owpvp has never solved any spot conflict since launch.

So basically, my point is proven. Again. 

Yea he is lost cause. He dont even realise what he is writing.Could show two three mystakes in his thinking but it will be with no use. He will responce the same way like always.

 Lets forget him and move on. Lets see what Bounty Sys will bring.

Actualy I change my mind. I will respond because we can crealy see that you almost aknowledged that we are right, but then your ego comes in ant try to made up things.

Let me ask some things to show again how flawed your logic is.

After you aknowledged for a second that PvP does affect PvE, and try to escape with statement that BDO is maraton, I can ask you why then you need another server. You can grind forever at helms(or any low spot). No one will bother you, no one will PK you. And we, the rest of the players should play the game how its designed. Fight for better spots to gain maximum xp and silver.

 Because yea, if you dont care how much xp and silver you can get from mobs some people do.

The fact that someone have diferent play style dont make him neccesery for the game and the function. Or if I use your logic, since I dont like lifeskiling, I should demand server without it. Since if its gone the game wont change, I will still get xp and silver.

Which destroys this:

TL;DR pk dont change pve, so are bound to no others systems, you also seem unable to say otherwise, therefore, its only your personal wish and personal conception that make you say and believe that pk is necesary.

Therefore, as a conception isnt necessary shared by everyone, it all come back to always the same thing :

And I must say, yes I was able to say that PK change PvE, its you who try to change it. Because the amount of xp and silver you get form killing mobs is PvE. Deny it, how much you want, it wont chage the fact.

A conception that it is not shared by everyone dont makes it unnesasery. If you hate it so much dont play the game, because its prefered for many people. And if some conseption is hated by most and unused or without function or inpact over the gameplay it will be removed.

Personal conception doesnt become very personal if its the main focus of many players and the devs.

 And about the last thing you say:

And that's you "forced pk addict" issue, you only consider your personal conception as "that's how it have to be and how it is", and why you are always incorrect, and you end to be so mad about me as i just slap the reality of the game in your face, and you dont seem to be able to stand that.

That realy made me laugh. Nice try to attack, but just funy cos you made yourself look inded mad about me, not me about you. Making up reality to suits you, just shows how weak you are. I might be incorect some times, but not always. Everyone makes mystakes, but with that statement you prove that you are already helpless and only twisting reality to reduse the damage. And you didnt slap reality out in my face. Like I say earlier in this post, reality slaps you. You almost admited that we are right, but again come out with changing reality. I know its hard for you to accept that you are been wrong. But this post is step in wright direction.

And this is the time that I can give you an advise. Stand from the keyboard, go to your parents and tell them that you have serios obsesion and together with you ego problems you are at apoint that twisting reality. Tell them that you need help.

With what is on the Global Lab patch notes, the bounty system is going to be a greifing Karma Bomber's paradise.  They should make the bounty system only kick in if someone kills while negative Karma, not any time someone attacks another person and that person dies within 10 seconds.

Yea it dont sounds good. And I stil wonder why there is no flag system. It will be needed more than ever now.

After all thoses months of pve channel request you still dont even get the actual logic ( i'am sorry to not be sorry, but : LOL ) :

No one can make you lifeskill, nor impose life skill on your character, therefore, you will never be bothered by life skill if you dont want to do it.

Its not the case for forced pk, as anyone can bother you at anytime with a forced pk you dont want ( considering a situation when forced pk is not desired )

That alone is a vaste difference and make the logic you """"have understood"""" totaly off. ( the only think to fix here is your understanding )

So indeed, another kind of channel is requested to :

1- let forced pk lover keep forcefully pk each other and not be bothered by players disliking that and not playing along their pk game. 

2- Players disliking forced pk will not be bothered by seeing someone try to forced on them something they dislike and that bring absolutely no added value to their BDO experience

= it "destroy" nothing as the only issue here is your understanding. Not what i'am saying.

Wrong

Wrong again, that's what many of you like to say. I only make you face "your" own contradiction.

On top of the "BDO is a sandbox" therefore following thoses, everyone do what they want" so have different goal & consideration.

As personaly, i never considered the "clear speed spreadsheet" simulator as something relevant to do, therefore, your "its the only BDO goal" already fall apart. 

You seem to missunderstand things, i said it belong to the possibilities to nullify the pk effect.

I dont speak about what i personaly do, as its not the subject

Then what you call "karmabomber" also play the game the way its designed :) And players disliking forcedpk also play the game the way its designed since PA teach to new players a BDO without forced pk with OIivia & seasonal.

Again : Your consideration isnt the truth

Yup like forced pk is useless for any games systems to functions, yet somes guys like you try to make it look like so necessary when its not at all :)

Oh now you say otherwise ? kekw.

( please tell me you play dumb on purpose ) that's actualy pretty insane to not distinguish the difference between :

The inherent pve system functionment  ( amount of mobs, amount of mobs spawned, amount of xp/sp give per mob, loot table.; etc etc etc, just to speak about grind spot )

And what the player get using the pve system : you dont change the system using it the way its designed to be used.

Like you dont change the apple tree functionment by gathering apple, it will remain the same appletree that will produce the same kind of apple.

Its the same thing here, and you unability to understand that idfference is actualy .. wth ?

good lord, how you understand things is more than worrying, i hope you really play dumb on purpose otherwise, i'am truly sorry for you

A conception have no reason to be imposed, especialy when its not necessary for the overall system to function, and when it only depend on a personal liking

This is what i'am really saying, and its vastly different.

As you seem too pepega lets use a easy exemple :

A car dont need to have gold plated rim to function, but if its your personal conception and cant imagine a war without gold plated rim, whatever that's your thing.

YET there is NO REASON you should impose gold plated rim to anyone else, only because that's your conception.

capiche ? or still too hard for you to grasp such simple thing ?

Still a personal conception to want to play with / use a forced pk beeing bound and necessary for strictly zero other pve systems

actualy i dont attack, its just underlining the general pk lover problem. Dont over estimate yourself please, you are the center of no world, nothing is directed at you with that.

Yet when i see how you understand somes things with your answer ( that is actualy directly directed at you ), i think the problem is way deeper than that.

When i see how you are unable to understand simple things, i'am not surprised you see apple when i say orange.

And i dont "admit" thing when they are incorrect, i admit thing when that's a reality, you still dont get that i not childish like most of your pk lover buddy and i dont play your crappy dodgingbones or mr strawman or Mr "quote in answer too hard for my brain" games.

You wouldnt mind if i skipped the rest of your answer, the "i try to write an attack" isnt interesting and change nothing, you still actualy had, like all your others buddy absolutely no arguments and demonstration, nor exemple to contradict what i've said previewsly