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# 281
Écrit le : 3 mai 2021, 11:52 (UTC), par : Werbs

You can ignore the fact that you opt into PvP and thus open yourself up to random PvP attack all you want, doesn't change the fact that you opted into it.  The only thing this quest shows is that from the very beginning of BDO that it was intended to have PvP.  In fact your arguement that it was from the very beginning proves that forced PvP does actually fit your criteria of proving that PvP is in the core functionality of BDO.  Your own arguement proves my point 100% that players are supposed to participate in OW PvP.

As for "exhausting player's braincells" they are just fed up with your lies and your inability to find a translation program that actually works because what you type is so broken we have to try and peace what you are sying together.  Going to say this one more time before you go on the flat out ignore column STOP QUOTING YOURSELF IN REPLIES. " you are just too hard to understand, and I highly doubt you can understand what we are trying to convey to you.  That is if you are even honestly trying to understand, which I doubt.  You seem to be coming from a stance of Ignorance, stupidity, or obstinance.  

 

Still dodging the question, and throwing whatever useless agressive bait to forum fight as a classic BDO user

Écrit le : 29 avr. 2021, 13:54 (UTC), par : Woots

Do you have arguments based on BDO functionment to demonstrate why players should be forced to accepte forced pk when it bring nothing at all on a systemic game level.

Using "but your english is bad" is way too cheap, as for pro english user you even are unable to correctly answer something actualy pretty simple ( which says a lot about your "pro english user" ) that would even make the entier point of the forced pvp.

But instead, like mr strawman, toxicbone for exemple, you keep speak to say nothing relevant.

 

So, do you have arguments ?

 

"You can ignore the fact that you opt into PvP and thus open yourself up to random PvP attack all you want, doesn't change the fact that you opted into it"

There is a difference between "opt into" because the game will need it in his content, wish is wrong as i said here :

On: Apr 29, 2021, 13:54 (UTC), Written by Woots

BDO doesnt resolve around owpvp like ArcheAge for exemple.

 

BDO :

No pve systems need forced pk to function ( hello Olivia & seasonal where no systems at all was reworked & changed, all spot & life skills behave the exact same way )

forced pk bring nothing at all ( no xp, no drop, no sp, no particular pve advantage = no more mob spawn, not more loot etc etc )

 

And a residue of a outdated BDO setting that come from another BDO time. ( which mean that "quest" you like you rely so much as its your single "fact" related to forced pk" actualy have no mean anymore )

 

Therefore, whatever if they kept that quest as "pk activation point" its still change nothing :

- pk isnt needed for the game at all,

- no systemS need forced pk

 

There is no valid and logica reason based on BDO systemS functionment that pk should keep be forced.

 

And whatever your desperate attempt at beeing agressive to drift away from the point, you still have ZERO argument to go against that.

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# 283
On: May 7, 2021, 08:08 (UTC), Written by Woots

 

Still dodging the question, and throwing whatever useless agressive bait to forum fight as a classic BDO user

Using "but your english is bad" is way too cheap, as for pro english user you even are unable to correctly answer something actualy pretty simple ( which says a lot about your "pro english user" ) that would even make the entier point of the forced pvp.

But instead, like mr strawman, toxicbone for exemple, you keep speak to say nothing relevant.

 

So, do you have arguments ?

 

"You can ignore the fact that you opt into PvP and thus open yourself up to random PvP attack all you want, doesn't change the fact that you opted into it"

There is a difference between "opt into" because the game will need it in his content, wish is wrong as i said here :

And a residue of a outdated BDO setting that come from another BDO time. ( which mean that "quest" you like you rely so much as its your single "fact" related to forced pk" actualy have no mean anymore )

 

Therefore, whatever if they kept that quest as "pk activation point" its still change nothing :

- pk isnt needed for the game at all,

- no systemS need forced pk

 

There is no valid and logica reason based on BDO systemS functionment that pk should keep be forced.

 

And whatever your desperate attempt at beeing agressive to drift away from the point, you still have ZERO argument to go against that.

if you are going to just quote yourself making your post difficult to read, i'm not going to bother trying to answer all your bull shit questions that have already been answered 12 times.

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# 285
Écrit le : 7 mai 2021, 09:29 (UTC), par : Werbs

if you are going to just quote yourself making your post difficult to read, i'm not going to bother trying to answer all your bull shit questions that have already been answered 12 times.

If you are going to just run away unable to answer a simple question under cheap excuse, that's your problem.

 

And thats not bull shit question, ppl like to argue forced pk is that necessary for BDO, therefore i request thoses players to demonstrate how forced pk is that necessary on a systemic point of view.

 

that's actualy very simple, if you are unable to do that and, so you, dodge that question with crappy answser, it then mean i'am correct and forced pk only depend on players wish, and then a random wish have no reason to be forced on anyone not willing it.

 

Thanks for the QED, another one unable to answer that.

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Last Edit : May 7, 2021, 11:13 (UTC)
# 286
Écrit le : 7 mai 2021, 10:59 (UTC), par : Woots

If you are going to just run away unable to answer a simple question under cheap excuse, that's your problem.

 

And thats not bull shit question, ppl like to argue forced pk is that necessary for BDO, therefore i request thoses players to demonstrate how forced pk is that necessary on a systemic point of view.

 

that's actualy very simple, if you are unable to do that and, so you, dodge that question with crappy answser, it then mean i'am correct and forced pk only depend on players wish, and then a random wish have no reason to be forced on anyone not willing it.

 

Thanks for the QED, another one unable to answer that.

 

When you die from PVP your PVE kill speed becomes zero.

 

Given the fact that BDO relies on killing mobs to function in PVE, in other words for you to get XP, loot and quest completed, I can't see anything that influences more the PVE than PVP at a fundamental level.

 

But this as been told to your face a hundred times or more over several years, yet you play the dumb attitude "what is your point".

 

The only QED that has been demonstrated once again, is why nobody told you seriously here.

Last Edit : May 7, 2021, 11:13 (UTC)
# 287
On: May 7, 2021, 08:17 (UTC), Written by Woots

I did and there is nothing, no argument, just speaking to strawman, i think you will need to bring them all on the table as you still havent answered :

 

"Still, owpvp is really a convenient tool, no wonder so many players can "mistakenly" use it for spot possession."

 

Cool story, doesnt change the point :

- forced pk not needed by any BDO systemS ( you still have no factual  argument against )

- Forecd pk only depending on your personal wish to use it = still zero reasons to keep force that on anyone

- No one care of forced pk lover that will want to keep forcefull pk each other, as pve channel just is a request to have a option to play without that if so desired.

- pve channel damage nothing ( you still have no factual  argument against  )

 

Bad strawman bait that change nothing to the point

It changes everything. Already proven, just read. ;) 

Last Edit : May 7, 2021, 12:01 (UTC)
# 288
Écrit le : 7 mai 2021, 11:13 (UTC), par : Sadalsuud

It changes everything. Already proven, just read. ;)

You only said that somes players use forced pk, and i never said otherwise, you should stop pull out thing that doesnt matter to appear to have something smart to say mr strawman trying bad diversion.

 

As its still change nothing to :

Écrit le : 7 mai 2021, 08:17 (UTC), par : Woots

- forced pk not needed by any BDO systemS ( you still have no factual  argument against )

- Forecd pk only depending on your personal wish to use it = still zero reasons to keep force that on anyone

 

And still neither change that are unable to answer ( apparently like somes others forced pk so fierce defender )

Écrit le : 29 avr. 2021, 13:54 (UTC), par : Woots

Do you have arguments based on BDO functionment to demonstrate why players should be forced to accepte forced pk when it bring nothing at all on a systemic game level.

Or contradict :

On: Apr 29, 2021, 13:54 (UTC), Written by Woots

BDO doesnt resolve around owpvp like ArcheAge for exemple.

 

BDO :

No pve systems need forced pk to function ( hello Olivia & seasonal where no systems at all was reworked & changed, all spot & life skills behave the exact same way )

forced pk bring nothing at all ( no xp, no drop, no sp, no particular pve advantage = no more mob spawn, not more loot etc etc )

 

 

You personaly even still dodge like a bad strawman :

Écrit le : 14 avr. 2021, 10:15 (UTC), par : Woots

So again Mr strawman.

 

- Where are your proof regarding pve channels beeing detrimental to BDO

- What pve systems did they changed because forced pk was disabled ? ( like did mob spawn was changed ? did loot was changed ? did xp curve was changed ? ... etc etc )

Écrit le : 14 avr. 2021, 10:25 (UTC), par : Woots

To put another nails in the salsuud strawman coffin

 

Imagine ! one month ago i was already talking about that strawman already unable to argument & demonstrate his premise.

Imagine, that guy since a month still try to dodge

 

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Last Edit : May 7, 2021, 12:15 (UTC)
# 289
Écrit le : 7 mai 2021, 11:13 (UTC), par : Smileybones

 

When you die from PVP your PVE kill speed becomes zero.

 

Given the fact that BDO relies on killing mobs to function in PVE, in other words for you to get XP, loot and quest completed, I can't see anything that influences more the PVE than PVP at a fundamental level.

 

But this as been told to your face a hundred times or more over several years, yet you play the dumb attitude "what is your point".

 

The only QED that has been demonstrated once again, is why nobody told you seriously here.

Btw, you still havent explained : What pve systems need forced pk to function ? it was you premised you dodged to correctly explain Mr I grind kratuga in party at ANY GS.

 

Regarding your "point": Since when forced pk prevent anyone from grinding ? ( channel switch, spot change, respawn and go back until pker leave etc etc  ultimately, pk prevent jack sh#t)  And you still dont influence PVE, you only "influence" the player itself.

PVE systemes still behave the exact same way whenever there is pk or not, one, or 235 players. Its still the same mobs, the same amount, the same xp, the same rng loot etc etc...

 

The only QED that has been demonstrated once again, is the level of stupidity of what you are posting thinking it was smart enough to make a point.

Go back in your corner and remain silent DodgingBones, or go back at kratuga at ANY GS, its better for you.

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Last Edit : May 7, 2021, 12:51 (UTC)
# 290
On: May 7, 2021, 12:11 (UTC), Written by Woots

Btw, you still havent explained : What pve systems need forced pk to function ? it was you premised you dodged to correctly explain Mr I grind kratuga in party at ANY GS.

 

Regarding your "point": Since when forced pk prevent anyone from grinding ? ( channel switch, spot change, respawn and go back until pker leave etc etc  ultimately, pk prevent jack sh#t)  And you still dont influence PVE, you only "influence" the player itself.

PVE systemes still behave the exact same way whenever there is pk or not, one, or 235 players. Its still the same mobs, the same amount, the same xp, the same rng loot etc etc...

 

The only QED that has been demonstrated once again, is the level of stupidity of what you are posting thinking it was smart enough to make a point.

Go back in your corner and remain silent DodgingBones, or go back at kratuga at ANY GS, its better for you.

At the moment you get killed, when you're dead, during your travel back to the grind spot if you don't use tears, or simply when you're CCed, tell me : are you hitting a mob?

 

Meanwhile, your opponent is still able to do it. Conclusion ? 

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