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Here's a 200 iq solution to the pve pvp debate
Apr 29, 2021, 19:15 (UTC)
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Last Edit : May 7, 2021, 07:59 (UTC)
# 211
On: May 7, 2021, 07:18 (UTC), Written by FearlessMe

 

Another comment was stating that they faced forced PvP and getting mob fed quite often. Are you going to tell me 550 GS have no business grinding spots intended for them. That they should roll the turd downhill into a player at a lesser spot. If we follow this trend, then where does that leave the newplayers fresh out of Olvia channels. The player that don't know which way is up. Should they just not be able to play the game because they simply came too late to the game?

The only problem with spots is potion spots. They basicaly exactly 550GS spots and even less, but populated with 650+ players. But those are not the only spots in the game you can grind many other spots without problem. Specialy now. I have many alts, more of them are 500 -550 GS and believe me there is plently of spots to grind peacefuly. We also have peopl in our guild that hate pvp and grind all kinda of spots even SE and trees. They dont complain so much, not like you. Yes the get killed, yes they get involved in PvP but they contunue to play without crying loud like you and some other people here. I get that some take it hard when they get killed once in a while, but this is not reason to change the game. Specialy when its full of PvE MMOs outhere. And since you have EVE, ESO and GW2 which you advertise in almost every post, why you still posting here? When every post is against BDO, why you are still here? Why since I dont like ESO Im not plaing it and dont spend my time in forums crying to improve combat and visuals? Or you just like BDO but you are bad at pvp? Wait are you one of those griefers that want PvE only servers to be able to grife without been killed. I get it now.(you see I can play your game too)

Now more serious. BDO is progression game. And its slow progression game. That must be clear to new players. They should not expect to log in the game and go to end game spot at day one. Seasonal gived equipment to almost all spots(or the new quests now).Thats enough to progress. And Players shoud have some purpose to spent time and some eforts to earn some gear for PvP and end spots. You said it that this is the gear for 90% of the player base. 90% of the players dont meet the rest 10% non stop, like someone before me say. So why you cry so much that a new player should be able to compete with 10% most hardcore players in the game from day one. Without any effort or investmant? Its not right from gamedesing pov. This is progression MMO.And if you cant spend ten times less time in a game that other spend, well you are in the wrong game.

 It might sound harsh, but most of the complains I read on forums are due to fact that people have no idea what BDO is , and they just want other type of game.

 And again. One PvE server might work with some limitation, but PvE players wont be happy, like many of us said long before Seasons. And seasons proves it. Now some people want equal number PvE servers to normal, some even want only lifeskill servers. And this is a direction many of us dont want. Gladly devs too. BDO must remain PvEvP game, or will lost its identity.

Last Edit : May 7, 2021, 08:04 (UTC)
# 212
On: May 7, 2021, 06:54 (UTC), Written by IWalkAlone

You basicaly didnt answer my question. You dont grind mobs which means you only lifeskills and probably bartering. At this activities PKing is even rarer. So again, why changing server is not a solutuion?

I still think that most of users who wrote so pasionly for PvE servers are just in need of it because of hate to PvP, not that they need PvE server so much. After all every one of them at some point staited that they are PKed veryrarely. One coment was something like this - " I grinded peacefuly for three months and someone killed me"...

Kinda wierd, dont you think ?

I did answer your question, the problem is that either do not like my answer or do not understand  it. I do kill mobs though, have you ever heard of quests? I rarely life skill either but I do dabble in some, no bartering at all. I do not play for hours and  hours and I quest to level my alts, I talk to npc for knowledge, I explore also for knowledge and I also kill mobs from time to time to get the knowledge too, but that normally happens while questing. I do not play the game the way you do because I play for my own entertainment, pvp is not entertaining for me. I cannot understand why you and the other pvp cohort do not understand that there are many players just like me that do not care to min/max, do not  care to pvp either and only play for short periods of time per day or per week but do enjoy many other aspects this game has to offer. The way I play the game is no threat to you or anyone else, and pve servers if players are locked to said servers would be no threat to you either. 

 

 

 

Last Edit : May 7, 2021, 08:20 (UTC)
# 213
On: May 7, 2021, 08:04 (UTC), Written by Altos

I did answer your question, the problem is that either do not like my answer or do not understand  it. I do kill mobs though, have you ever heard of quests? I rarely life skill either but I do dabble in some, no bartering at all. I do not play for hours and  hours and I quest to level my alts, I talk to npc for knowledge, I explore also for knowledge and I also kill mobs from time to time to get the knowledge too, but that normally happens while questing. I do not play the game the way you do because I play for my own entertainment, pvp is not entertaining for me. I cannot understand why you and the other pvp cohort do not understand that there are many players just like me that do not care to min/max, do not  care to pvp either and only play for short periods of time per day or per week but do enjoy many other aspects this game has to offer. The way I play the game is no threat to you or anyone else, and pve servers if players are locked to said servers would be no threat to you either. 

You don't use >99% of the game, and want an entirely new server for the <1% of the game that you do use, and you call the OWPvP players selfish?

 

"Hey guys, I only like looking at NPC cats and nothing else, can we get a server where there are only NPC cats, I don't want any of the other mobs, NPCs, Players, or anything I just want to see NPC Cats.  Give us our own server where everything is instanced so we can walk around looking at NPC cats all day."

 

That is what your argument.

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Last Edit : May 7, 2021, 08:45 (UTC)
# 214
On: May 7, 2021, 08:20 (UTC), Written by Werbs

You don't use >99% of the game, and want an entirely new server for the <1% of the game that you do use, and you call the OWPvP players selfish?

 

"Hey guys, I only like looking at NPC cats and nothing else, can we get a server where there are only NPC cats, I don't want any of the other mobs, NPCs, Players, or anything I just want to see NPC Cats.  Give us our own server where everything is instanced so we can walk around looking at NPC cats all day."

 

That is what your argument.

Wow talk about totally misrepresenting what I do in bdo. I participate in everything the game has to offer that I am geared enough to do aside from pvp and bartering. Glad you are arrogant enough to think you know me or how I play the game, I am done with your rudeness, sadly there is no block function because you most definitely would be blocked by me. Maybe you should check out my account details while bearing in mind that I only play for one to two hours per day most days and that I never afk.

Last Edit : May 7, 2021, 09:13 (UTC)
# 215
On: May 7, 2021, 08:04 (UTC), Written by Altos

I did answer your question, the problem is that either do not like my answer or do not understand  it. I do kill mobs though, have you ever heard of quests? I rarely life skill either but I do dabble in some, no bartering at all. I do not play for hours and  hours and I quest to level my alts, I talk to npc for knowledge, I explore also for knowledge and I also kill mobs from time to time to get the knowledge too, but that normally happens while questing. I do not play the game the way you do because I play for my own entertainment, pvp is not entertaining for me. I cannot understand why you and the other pvp cohort do not understand that there are many players just like me that do not care to min/max, do not  care to pvp either and only play for short periods of time per day or per week but do enjoy many other aspects this game has to offer. The way I play the game is no threat to you or anyone else, and pve servers if players are locked to said servers would be no threat to you either. 

 

 

 

Well I gues I realy dont understand you. I ask you why is not a problem to change if someon killsteal but you need a seperate server when someone kills you. I get that you kill mobs rarely, but dont tell me you get PKed often when you speak to npc. Dont get me wrong. I just dont find a normal reason to need a seperate server for something that hapens very rarely. I play since day one and Ive been PKed when i autopath probably less times that I have fingers on my both hands(I have all of them). And I was Pked only one time on npc. And it was on seasoanl Arsha. And still I didnt see clear answer why you cant switch server when you get PKed. And I did main questline on more than 20 chars. Yet  I dont do other quests. I mostly grind and still I PKed verry rarely. And I PK rarely, usualy if someone griefs me 1 or 2 kills are enough.

So I still dont find it such problem if someone dies once a week from player and loose nothing, specialy when the one dont have a problem to die from mob and loose progress.

 In both case you have death. On one you luse nothing, on othere you luse xp and crystals.One is npc, the other is player. It looks like psychological problem than a real problem. Again, if death from player is often or non stop it will make sence, but its not.

Last Edit : May 7, 2021, 09:39 (UTC)
# 216
On: May 7, 2021, 01:52 (UTC), Written by Altos

Congratulations, this is hands down the most ridiculous comment I have seen in any forum. 

On: May 7, 2021, 04:33 (UTC), Written by Vulpin

That all I'm saying about this post like seriously wtf.

 

Also wtf are half of these arguments? Most of the people defending OWPVP are people saying it will encourage griefers grinding over top of them. Like ok sure, but WTF who said you had to grind the the servers were OWPVP is disabled exactly? But than your the same people complaining about karmabombers when there a server called Arsha were there no karma lose. I don't understand these fire in water arguments that make zero sense.

 

In dont understand, why is there a differance if its good AI, or a person that kills you when you leave a safe zone?

 

You are telling me if this game had good AI you would still complain?

 

About karma bombing, the complaint is thats how you grief in this game..not by pking. You cant grief someone pking cause you lose karma and then gear score. Thus the ability to Pk after awhile. On seasons people were griefing and resource hogging with impunity on a mass scale, it was ridiculous.

Last Edit : May 7, 2021, 09:40 (UTC)
# 217
On: May 7, 2021, 08:04 (UTC), Written by Altos

I did answer your question, the problem is that either do not like my answer or do not understand  it. I do kill mobs though, have you ever heard of quests? I rarely life skill either but I do dabble in some, no bartering at all. I do not play for hours and  hours and I quest to level my alts, I talk to npc for knowledge, I explore also for knowledge and I also kill mobs from time to time to get the knowledge too, but that normally happens while questing. I do not play the game the way you do because I play for my own entertainment, pvp is not entertaining for me. I cannot understand why you and the other pvp cohort do not understand that there are many players just like me that do not care to min/max, do not  care to pvp either and only play for short periods of time per day or per week but do enjoy many other aspects this game has to offer. The way I play the game is no threat to you or anyone else, and pve servers if players are locked to said servers would be no threat to you either. 

 

 

 

 

Because locking people to channels will cause more problems then it solves..alot more.

Last Edit : May 7, 2021, 10:34 (UTC)
# 218
On: May 7, 2021, 07:53 (UTC), Written by Werbs

I was afraid an award like this would summon Vulpin and Retteo, seems I was correct they now want to regain their throne.

It's funny, they fail to see the ridiculousness of their desire to have free private progression channels. To each their own i guess.

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Last Edit : May 7, 2021, 10:51 (UTC)
# 220

Google translated, so I'm not 100% sure... And I can't really believe it... But is it me or did they put a protector system on glab?

 

Link to glab patch note, 2021-05-07

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