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Sage is broken OP
May 2, 2021, 03:36 (UTC)
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Last Edit : May 2, 2021, 03:38 (UTC)
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Sage gets to stay protected almost all the time and bob and weave between 100 people and then throw spells that 1-2 hit multiple people? Pretty busted. Why does it have the additional accuracy on skills that all other classes lost? My class used to have that huge accuracy as well and Kakao removed it and lowered my damage. Why bring it back with the new class and only that class?

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Last Edit : May 3, 2021, 08:57 (UTC)
# 2

Kinda expected them to nerf the accuracy buff/evasion shred with the Sage changes on global because it's pretty overtuned at the moment in that regard.

Last Edit : May 3, 2021, 15:47 (UTC)
# 3
On: May 2, 2021, 03:36 (UTC), Written by Pim

Sage gets to stay protected almost all the time and bob and weave between 100 people and then throw spells that 1-2 hit multiple people? Pretty busted. Why does it have the additional accuracy on skills that all other classes lost? My class used to have that huge accuracy as well and Kakao removed it and lowered my damage. Why bring it back with the new class and only that class?

Protected all the time lol, except he's not protected when attacking, that's wiz that's protected when attacking for most his ranged and damage kit.  He has zero protection when attacking save for the 5 second skill never used in pvp because it's too slow lol.  Sage isn't one shottong anyone, must have that confused with Meteor.  While he's strong, nowhere near succ caster busted.

Last Edit : May 3, 2021, 23:15 (UTC)
# 4
On: May 3, 2021, 15:47 (UTC), Written by Jenisiz

Protected all the time lol, except he's not protected when attacking, that's wiz that's protected when attacking for most his ranged and damage kit.  He has zero protection when attacking save for the 5 second skill never used in pvp because it's too slow lol.  Sage isn't one shottong anyone, must have that confused with Meteor.  While he's strong, nowhere near succ caster busted.

are u sure u arent using +10 liverto on your tests? :D

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Last Edit : May 3, 2021, 23:31 (UTC)
# 5
On: May 3, 2021, 23:15 (UTC), Written by Seeryus

are u sure u arent using +10 liverto on your tests? :D


I only need a +10 Liverto on the old Succ Caster I ditched a few months ago to top frag in RBF. Good luck doing that on Sage. I haven't seen anyone playing Sage top frag in RBF with trial gear...and even if they could, they'd at least have to do so without protected damage. Succ Nerfs can't get here quick enough. You think after nerfs, Succ Sage will be able to join guilds at the 50gs less requirement as Succ Casters currently do?

 

https://youtu.be/hJ7gZFwfCxY

 

 

 

Last Edit : May 5, 2021, 01:51 (UTC)
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balanced ;)

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Last Edit : May 5, 2021, 03:51 (UTC)
# 7
On: May 5, 2021, 01:51 (UTC), Written by Seeryus

 

 

 

 

balanced ;)

Biggest difference,  wasn't killing with one skill :) I mean can clearly see 15 sec in, he uses 4 skills to kill AND none of them have long range or protection...unlike someone else lol even in the intro with the preloaded skill, doesn't walk away with more then 2 kills, used 2 skills AND he has to do it directly infront of the targets with zero protection. For it to be balanced, he'd have to have protection on it and do it from outside render range. You can't honestly look at both videos playstyle and say they're comparable. I don't even play Succ Sage and just looking at both videos, can CLEARLY see the difference.  One actually requires you to move lol.

 

Thanks for posting this, I seriously want to have someone neutral or new look at both videos and tell me which looks more difficult to play. It's clear to ANYONE that the Succ Sage footage is leapse and bounds more complex then standing on a rock and casting one skill to kill balls. The further you go into the video I link he's killing 10+ players with a single skill. Vid you posted doesn't show a single one shot kill. And regardless,  Sage literally has zero range it's why he has the iframe movement skill lol. It's literally just like a Sorc only he can't instacast like DOD or Bloody or GRJ.

Last Edit : May 5, 2021, 10:20 (UTC)
# 8

hold up,....

 

rift chain>skill>riftchain>skill>riftchain>skill

 

is difficult for you? ma dude, no wonder u defend this class like crazy :D :D :D and u call sage zero range? wha? :D

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Last Edit : May 5, 2021, 14:55 (UTC)
# 9
On: May 5, 2021, 10:20 (UTC), Written by Seeryus

hold up,....

 

rift chain>skill>riftchain>skill>riftchain>skill

 

is difficult for you? ma dude, no wonder u defend this class like crazy :D :D :D and u call sage zero range? wha? :D

More complex then, stand on a building/rock and 1 skill blizzard or Meteor? Keep in mind, so long as a Succ Wizard can one skill entire balls, I'll defend Succ Sages...yeah, def more difficult and a very clear difference for anyone with two brain cells to rub together.  One requires 10+ keys...the other 1 quickslot. Not a single Succ Sage skill hits out of render range. His highest damage skills, Ators Mark and Spatial Collapse have zero range and infact cast directly infront of them. He literally has to jump down from the building to cast Ators in the very first minutes of your clip directly in front of the ball, AND is unprotectedwhile doing it in a 2 second locked animation....something a Succ Caster wouldn't have to do...they'd cast from the protection on top of that building lmfao.

 

You seriously saying that your mention is less complicated then sitting out of render range and pressing one button is harder then Succ Sage? You failed to take into account that Sage is unprotected and directly infront of the target during each skill.  What does sorc do? Iframe-skill-iframe-skill-iframe...see my point? Dozens of classes actually have to work for kills 10x more then Succ Witchards. Reason entire community was against Succ Witchards was they literally press only one button with minimal risk. I mean they have the highest damage in the game. Succ Sage doesn't and you even provided a video proving it. You even prove succ sage has to be directly in the mess with zero utility and is completely unprotected during attacks....all of which casters have lol. So long as Succ Witchards exist, Succ Sage will not be broken. Do I think Succ Sage is powerful,  hell yes. When you throw in Succ Witchards though,  he's not even close to them....and I mean between both videos, it's fairly obvious.  I mean, you don't find it odd that everyone asking for Succ Sage nerfs in here plays a Caster? Only thing I think should change on Succ Sage is Riftchain travel distance curbing half. That alone would make him about as tricky as a sorc to fight with less protection. 

Last Edit : May 5, 2021, 14:52 (UTC)
# 10

you know whats the difference between us? ill roast (and i have, and actually sent feedback and suggestions) succession casters (and unbalanced 1v1, bullshit enhancing system, rng jackpots etc) and point out bullshit there no problem. u cannot defend succ sage just because theres more other broken shit in the game. all these things need nerfing balancing or whatever u wanna call it. 

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