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#Sorceress
End-game gearing question - Awakened Sorceress
May 11, 2021, 00:13 (UTC)
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Last Edit : May 11, 2021, 00:26 (UTC)
# 1

Hi.  Which build would you rather use in PvP and why?

*Assumes all PEN armor and weapons and all TET+ yellow accessories

 

Build A.  "Pure assassin.  Kills swiftly, capable of taking down a variety of DP builds competently.  Open World massacre artist.")

 

Armor and weapons:  Leeburs.  Muskans.  DUO Fallen God.  Heve Helmet.  Kzarka.  Dandelion.  NOUVER.

Accessories:  2x Distortion Earrings.  2x Tungrad Rings.  1x PEN Basilisk's Belt.  1x Revived Lunar Necklace (accuracy one).

Caphra's Stones.

Gear Score:  303 AP / 305 AAP / 342 DP

 

Build B.  "A well-rounded build, maintaining a good chunk of the offensive power, but not all of it, while offering substantially more defensive capabilities.  Zerg disruption at its finest.")

 

Armor and weapons: Leeburs.  Muskans.  DUO Fallen God.  Heve Helmet.  Kzarka.  Dandelion.  KUTUM.

Accessories:  2x Distortion Earrings.  2x Tungrad Rings.  1x PEN Basilisk's Belt.  1x Ogre/Laytenn/Tungrad Necklace.

Caphra's Stones.

Gear Score:  295 AP / 297 AAP / 350+ DP (forgot the exact number, but I think it's 354)

 

Build C)  Your suggestion on third+ option(s)? 

Could go for a DR based armors build and run full AP monkey with Nouver for 309 AAP, for example.  Keep in mind, this build is for Sorc.

 

Sorry, do not have access to exact Accuracy and Evasion stats.  But with this limited information, my fellow Awakened Sorc Mains, which build would you rather have (can only pick one) for PvP?

 

Thanks! =^-^= (<- that's a cat)

Last Edit : May 12, 2021, 16:55 (UTC)
# 2

Hello,

 

I wanted to roll sorc, now im playing nova, (got a sorc level 56). how is she end game grinding spots (and pvp )? i like her skills tbh and cool weapon. 

 

thank you

Last Edit : May 13, 2021, 01:44 (UTC)
# 3
On: May 12, 2021, 16:55 (UTC), Written by Dante

Hello,

 

I wanted to roll sorc, now im playing nova, (got a sorc level 56). how is she end game grinding spots (and pvp )? i like her skills tbh and cool weapon. 

 

thank you

Hi!  This is a long post, but I love this class :) Sorc is great!

 

For me, there is no other class that "feels" like Sorc, she is so unique in her gameplay and mechanics.  Fast, iframe-y, delicate flower with knockout power, dark-magic theme, complex mechanics with loads of animation cancels and combo potential.

 

She performs pretty well in PvE - great at one-shot spots because of Violation, the "Helicopter" move, I like to call it.  It's a spinning 360 degree melee AoE that moves your charcater forward, so Awakening Sorc does quite well in one-shot areas, able to move between packs quickly.  In high-end PvE, Sorc also performs well and is able to pull slightly above average trash loot.  In high-end PvE, Succ Sorc and Awak Sorc are able to provide nearly identical trash loot numbers, so is one class where players can truly decide which spec to run for high-end PvE.  She is fairly high APM for both specs (lower APM for Succ).

 

Sorc, though, requires a steep learning curve.  The only benefit I have in playing this class is that I've mained Sorc every since I started BDO, very first class in creation, and first class I actually played and mained, so I have the benefit of time.  Still not a "god-tier" Sorc, but I like to think I know what I'm doing haha, least for the most part.  Sorc is quite demanding of button inputs for high-end PvE, a good amount of her debuffs are on abilities that do not do damage, so you'll need to proc a few light-hitting attacks before executing your full combo in order to achieve max efficiency.  I find Succession is much easier on the hands for high-end PvE, but still requires debuffing and proccing self-buffs before going into full combo.  She will take a lot more practice in PvE than most other classes, timing of key presses also plays a factor, for example because if you do not time Awakening Violation well, or execute this one important move properly, you will be very slow.  She has many animation cancels, and learning the intricacies of animation cancels and mastering her kit will take time and effort.

 

For PvP, Sorc is one of the best all-around PvP classes, able to do well in all PvP scenarios (1v1, 1vX, small scale, large scale).  IMO, Sorc's best PvP scenarios are 1v1, 1vX and small scale.  She can struggle in large scale a bit because of not too many ranged abilities, being mostly melee glass cannon, and lag can mess up your iframes.  In large scale, she's best used as a flex class who can flank, dive enemy backlines, or cause disruption in the enemy zerg, IMO.  Succession, however, does have a little more ranged potential, so you may find some success with Succession Sorc for larger scale fights.  But mostly, it comes down to what you prefer and what works better for you.  I know both Succession and Awakening Sorcs who do amazingly well in PvP.  I mained Succession for quite some time, but I currently prefer Awakening.  I do dabble and have fun with Succession at times, though.  Succession is really fun using an evasion build (evasion off-hand) lol, I feel you can apply pressure and "go ham" a bit more with Succession and the added defensive stats from an evasion off-hand lets you stay in the fight.

 

Sorc is notoriously known as one of, if not the best, 1vX class due to her iframes and huge burst (if you have the AP).  But, and this is a big but, Sorc mechanics takes time to get used to and master - she plays unlike most other classes.  She has a low amount of Super Armor and Frontal Guards, and consumes a lot fo stamina when iframing, so you need to learn how to properly rotate SA / FG / iframe according to the situation at hand.  And this will take time and muscle memory, mastering Sorc, IMO, is a "labor of love".  She is also very, very squishy, any class will be able to 100 - 0 easily if you're not overgeared.  Unforgiving, yet deadly once mastered, PvP playstyle.

 

Succession PvP, IMO, has a lower skill floor.  Meaning, you may be able to contribute to your team or learn the ropes, faster.  But with that, IMO, comes with a lower skill ceiling.  Meaning, once you reach a certain point in class mastery, you're bottlenecked by the limitations of the kit.  Awakening PvP, IMO, has a much higher skill floor and ceiling.  It will be more difficult and time consuming to master Awakening Sorc compared to Succession, IMO, but, with that comes the skill ceiling -- the possibiltiies with Awakening are nearly limitless.  I've mained Sorc for 4 years, and I still learn something new almost every fight.  From timing, to situational awareness, to getting smoother with my execution, finding new ways to engage or find openings, and more.  Sorc is a class that thrives off creating or finding holes in your opponent, and capitalizing on those holes you created or found to punish.  She has no grab, instead, she is given outplay potential (slippery and tricky).

 

Sorc is a wonderful class :) Hard to master, but once you do, you'll be a serious threat.  Feel free to hit me up!  Also, I'd recommend checking out Drakillia's video he posted in this forum.  A perfect guide, IMO, to introduce yourself to the Sorceress class:  Black Desert | PEARL ABYSS (playblackdesert.com) <- LINK :)

Last Edit : May 16, 2021, 02:28 (UTC)
# 4
On: May 11, 2021, 00:13 (UTC), Written by PeaceInChaos

 

Build A.  "Pure assassin.  Kills swiftly, capable of taking down a variety of DP builds competently.  Open World massacre artist.")

 

Armor and weapons:  Leeburs.  Muskans.  DUO Fallen God.  Heve Helmet.  Kzarka.  Dandelion.  NOUVER.

Accessories:  2x Distortion Earrings.  2x Tungrad Rings.  1x PEN Basilisk's Belt.  1x Revived Lunar Necklace (accuracy one).

Caphra's Stones.

Gear Score:  303 AP / 305 AAP / 342 DP

 

pure assassin would not be a mix of evasion and nouver, but DR/acurracy with bhegs and RBF crystals.

downsides: you die vs 269ap nubs in endgame gear, upgrading pen armor with dozens of billions of caphras feels worthless.

 

build B is also valid, needs a bit more DP even so it gets decent
downsides: there will still be some classes that kill you just as fast. and you have more trouble killing other eva based classes.

 

 

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Sensekatz
Last Edit : May 20, 2021, 11:48 (UTC)
# 5

As  a sorc you want/need damage, unless you can stay over 305 bracket with kutum i dont recomend going kutum or you will struggle REAAALLLY hard against DR block classes (warriors, valks and such), dont get me wrong, you will struggle anyways but if you wanna have a chance of pressuring them you NEED the ap.

Also unless you are WAY more geared (closer to C20 than to C9) evasion is not "viable" on sorc, let me explain: you can wear it and wont really feel much, you wont be tankier or squishier really but the loss of accuracy from leeburs is simply not worth, specially considering you are not really being any more tanky with leeburs+heve+muskans than you would with bhegs+urugons+griffon. Also to be fair, no eva build is viable without kutum and/or some evasion jewelry (you simply dont have enough evasion to deal with average accuracy at same gear).

So my tips are, go DR (Bhegs, Urugons, Griffon), simply cos bhegs accuracy are way more valuable than the silver you save from a posible swap to eva build later. Get full AP jewelry till you are over 305, then, as soon as you get some ap use that ap to cover a jewerly swap to accuracy one, for example reach 307 with pen capotia belt/tet basi and then swap it to tet turo. At this point is just get pen jewelry, usually going for 309 and as much accuracy as possible. You can leave DP at C9 + duo fallen god for a while (should be around 360-370 depending on distos and such).

Once you are some PEN accesorys in you can start thinking on eva builds by swapping to kutum and all that but welp, thats kinda far away.

 

So my answer is option A but with DR instead of eva.
Should be 305/305/362 counting all journals so far:
PEN C9 Bhegs,PEN C9 Urugons, PEN C9 Griffon, DUO FallenGod, PEN C13 Kzarka, PEN C9 Dande, PEN C8 Nouver.

2xTET Disto, 2x TET tungrad ring, 1xTET Turo, 1x TET Ogre.
Next upgrades would be pen ogre or tet debo for 309, and then just PEN Ominus instead of tet tungrad rings, after that you can just spam caphras on armor really.

Last Edit : May 24, 2021, 22:06 (UTC)
# 6
On: May 16, 2021, 02:28 (UTC), Written by Spartakatz

pure assassin would not be a mix of evasion and nouver, but DR/acurracy with bhegs and RBF crystals.

downsides: you die vs 269ap nubs in endgame gear, upgrading pen armor with dozens of billions of caphras feels worthless.

 

build B is also valid, needs a bit more DP even so it gets decent
downsides: there will still be some classes that kill you just as fast. and you have more trouble killing other eva based classes.

 

 

On: May 20, 2021, 11:35 (UTC), Written by Otrsor

As  a sorc you want/need damage, unless you can stay over 305 bracket with kutum i dont recomend going kutum or you will struggle REAAALLLY hard against DR block classes (warriors, valks and such), dont get me wrong, you will struggle anyways but if you wanna have a chance of pressuring them you NEED the ap.

Also unless you are WAY more geared (closer to C20 than to C9) evasion is not "viable" on sorc, let me explain: you can wear it and wont really feel much, you wont be tankier or squishier really but the loss of accuracy from leeburs is simply not worth, specially considering you are not really being any more tanky with leeburs+heve+muskans than you would with bhegs+urugons+griffon. Also to be fair, no eva build is viable without kutum and/or some evasion jewelry (you simply dont have enough evasion to deal with average accuracy at same gear).

So my tips are, go DR (Bhegs, Urugons, Griffon), simply cos bhegs accuracy are way more valuable than the silver you save from a posible swap to eva build later. Get full AP jewelry till you are over 305, then, as soon as you get some ap use that ap to cover a jewerly swap to accuracy one, for example reach 307 with pen capotia belt/tet basi and then swap it to tet turo. At this point is just get pen jewelry, usually going for 309 and as much accuracy as possible. You can leave DP at C9 + duo fallen god for a while (should be around 360-370 depending on distos and such).

Once you are some PEN accesorys in you can start thinking on eva builds by swapping to kutum and all that but welp, thats kinda far away.

 

So my answer is option A but with DR instead of eva.
Should be 305/305/362 counting all journals so far:
PEN C9 Bhegs,PEN C9 Urugons, PEN C9 Griffon, DUO FallenGod, PEN C13 Kzarka, PEN C9 Dande, PEN C8 Nouver.

2xTET Disto, 2x TET tungrad ring, 1xTET Turo, 1x TET Ogre.
Next upgrades would be pen ogre or tet debo for 309, and then just PEN Ominus instead of tet tungrad rings, after that you can just spam caphras on armor really.

Holy crap thank you both.  This is amazing information.

 

I may be swapping to DR soon.  Got enough AP + accuracy right now.  305 aap with a Revived Lunar Necklace.  I just reached about 17 billion silver and was contemplating what to do with it.  Initially, thought of buying Caphra's for Muskan and Leebur, but afetr reading your posts, I think going DR is the best option.

 

What do you think about Urugon + Bheg + C19 Heve Helm?  Just thinking about what I can get right now with my 17 bil.  Uru + Bheg is more expensive than Musk + Leeb, so I'll be losing some silver in the swapp

Last Edit : Feb 11, 2022, 08:12 (UTC)
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