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Buffs and Balances for Shai
May 11, 2021, 09:46 (UTC)
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Last Edit : May 14, 2021, 20:27 (UTC)
# 1

Hello dear BDO Community,

in order to buff our class and make her viable again, some shais gathered together and worked on some ideas to buff and balance our class.
We tought about a way to keep the lifeskill benefits and improve them a little, same with PvE some skill changes and also some new possible skill ideas.

A huge chunk on what we worked on was PvP tho. How are we able to keep up with the current PvP meta? We tryed to work out some buff to our evasion, dp and other protections. (Including a possible new passive, new skill ideas and skill changes).  

Since we give up PvP dmg, becouse its basiclly not existing, we try to heal, buff and support our teammates as good as possible. Survivability is so important in order to do that. 

As a Shai we fall, as Shais we stand! #LoveForTheSmallones #TimeToShaine

 

The following stuff is about possible changes and buffs. Feel free to comment / discuss as much as you want. 

And ofcourse give as much feedback as possible to support us, supporting you on your long journey!

 

Main Hand Main Skills

Awakened Form

Swing Swing

LMB

No Changes

Twirl

A/D+LMB

Add

Twirl V

1 Hit dmg 534x1 Max 26 Hits

2 Hit dmg 534x1 Max 35 Hits

Accuracy rate 11%

Max targets 10

+30 mp per hit

Only for PvE

Go Away

F

Cant be used when on cd

One-Two-Three

RMB

No Changes

Go!

Q/E after first hit from RMB

Add dmg multiplier

Kwik-Two

S+RMB

All Evasion rate from 6% to 9-16%

Change Hit dmg multiplier from x1 to x2 for PvE dmg

Twirl-Three

Shift+RMB

Expand Super Armor to the moment Shai lowers her arms

Eat This!

LMB+RMB

Add Movement Speed +5%

Hop-Three

S+LMB

Add

Hop-Three IV

Hit dmg 993x1 Max 35 Hits

Accuracy rate 7%

Max targets 10

Only for PvE

Add

Hop-Three V

Hit dmg 1029x1 Max 35 Hits

Accuracy rate 9%

Max targets 10

Only for PvE

Main Hand Secondary Skills

Evasion

No Changes

Sprinkle-Sparkle

Add

Sprinkle-Sparkle V

Accuracy rate 23%

Maximum 5 targets ( Area of impact where it hits)

WP/SPMP +25% when hitting allies

WP/SP/MP -12% when hitting enemies

Hop

Add

Hop IV

Movement Speed +15%

Movement Distance Up

PvE iframe when on cooldown

Tuck-and-Roll

No Changes

Play Dead

No Changes

Outta My Way

Change

Pushes targets when not protected in PvE and PvP

Gather Around

No Changes

Cheer Up!

Change recovered hp per tick from 200 to 275

Come Out, Come Out

No Changes

(Cancellable with S+LMB)

Get Well

Increase Heal and or ticks (Or both)

700hp to 1000hp for three ticks

or

Make the heal % based on the Shais hp


Add a protection 

Over Here!

Add grapple resistance to the Shai while casting the skill

Awakanen Skills

Talent: Melody of Light

No Changes

Do it Better!

Shorter cast animation

Tuning

Needs a change!!!!

Elvia: Rascal

Can be used with Florang from hotbar

We’re Gonna Win!

Add a protection to

Do it Better!, Summer Rain, Time to Shine!,

Shout to the Sky, Sun Moon Stars

when casted with We’re Gonna Win! activated.

 

Summer Rain,

Time to Shine!,

Shout to the Sky,

Sun Moon Stars

Add Frontal Guard to the LvL 3 Skill

Starting when starting to cast.

OR

Summer Rain,

Time to Shine!,

Shout to the Sky,

Sun Moon Stars

Summons a Spirit which has 15 charges of the buff.

You can summon all Spirits at the same time.

(Casting another buff wont despawn a summon that got already summoned)

The summons stays until all charges got used or it dies to dmg (1 Player buffed consumes 1 charge including Shai)

Add hp to the summons that scales with the shais hp and dp

 

Misty Haze

Delusive Light

Add Frontal Guard when starting to cast and then Super Armor when casting the debuffs.

Reduce cooldown from 30s to 20s

 

Forest’s Echo

Add Counter Attack

Sun’s Fury

Increase PvE dmg from 1093%x7 to 1343%x8

Earth’s Tremble

Increase PvE dmg from 1003%x7 to 1203%x8

 

Some of the Awakened Skill Changes can be added with adding Bon Skills

Summer Rain,

Time to Shine!,

Shout to the Sky,

Sun Moon Stars

Add Frontal Guard to the LvL 3 Skill

Starting when starting to cast.

Misty Haze

Delusive Light

Add Frontal Guard when starting to cast and then Super Armor when casting the debuffs

Skill Enhancement Skills

Over There!

No Changes

Sharing is Caring

Hp scales with the Shais dp and hp

Twirl Boom!

No Changes

Tumble Wumble!

Change cc to Knockdown

Increase the duration of the Frontal Guard until Shai catches the Florang

Now!

Add -ap

Careful!

Increase healed hp from 1000 to 2500hp

Applies to allies and self

 

100 and 200%

One-Two-Three

No Changes

Get Well

Applies 100dp to 10 allies within the range

 

New Skill ideas

New Passive

Let us choose between the life skill passives that we have rn

Or

A new passive that increases Evasion rate / hp


Uncap the passive so there is a usage for the not used skillpoints. Also this would create a reason to keep on grinding on shai. This also would make shai a more efficient lifeskiller and PvP class.

Block

S-Block or normal Block

“For me?”

Adding a skill that gives Shai Super Armor for around 20 seconds

If this gets added some added protections can be removed

Florang Surf

Surfing on the Florand

Start of the skill is iframe followed by Super Armor

Awakened BSR Skills for

Summer Rain,

Time to Shine!,

Shout to the Sky,

Sun Moon Stars

Increases the buffs for 25 or 50% rage depending on lvl 2 or lvl 3 skill

Selfbuff BSR Skill

Adding a skill that consumes 15 or 25% rage

Give Shai extra evasion rate (Can only be used when having rage to use it)

Example:

+20% evasion rate -> 15%

+40% evasion rate -> 25%

“Dims great Spirit”

Adding a multi grab

Shai summons a little Dim Tree spirit that cast vines from below the ground that grabs 5 enemies on their ankles

High cd to make it balanced

“Now its my Time!”

Skills can be toggled.

Only one of the two skills can be activated.

20% from Shais dp gets multiplied by 1,5 and added to Shais PvE ap

140ap/500dp  ->  140ap+150(dp)ap/500dp-100(ap)dp

“Hold on tight”

Skills can be toggled.

Only one of the two skills can be activated.

50% from Shais ap gets converted to Shais dp

from the 50%, 25% gets converted to (dr)dp

and 25% gets converted to (eva)dp

140ap/500dp  ->  140ap-70(dp)ap/500dp+70(ap)dp

“Anakrans Will!”

Add an Elvia skill that Shai is able to use with the Florang

 

Awakanen Weapon Buffs

Base Stats

Add Monster Dmg

In case a Black Star Sol gets added this is not needed. 

 

Other Things

Usage for skill points

Skill addons for awaken skills

Adding Core skills

(Examples above)

Dandelion/Black Star Sols

The Sol can be used to tag any other class and can be copied

More heals

(Buffs like above)

Let shai use the Donkey as a dream donkey with skill shown from the April fools Event.

Wings so you can Fly

Faster sprint

Shai is able to play a song while riding a donkey

Clean pajamas and more

 

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Last Edit : May 11, 2021, 09:52 (UTC)
# 3

Good Ideas!

Last Edit : May 11, 2021, 10:10 (UTC)
# 4

This is exactly what we needed. I support every single one of the ideas. Thank you!!

Last Edit : May 11, 2021, 10:40 (UTC)
# 5

I strongly support the tweaks to our existing skills.
Personally, I'd perhaps even propose hitbox tweaks to 123 so we don't overshoot the 'hyper-aggro' mobs in Elvia zones etc!
Although I'm impartial to new skills and content added to our kit, I support the process. Thank you!

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NanoByte
Last Edit : May 11, 2021, 11:01 (UTC)
# 6

love every idea on here....some are more needed that others for sure. If I look at the protection on flute skills if used together with We’re Gonna Win! I don't think its needed....I mean we got a ton of range on it and as much as I would like to stand protected with that I think it would be to much.

But the FG on the lev 3 awa skills would be nice. 

 

The new passives would be my biggest wish I would say. If you don't lifeskill on your shai the passives are useless and she needs more eva/dr to keep up with the ppl stacking ap and acc. 

Last Edit : May 11, 2021, 13:49 (UTC)
# 7

i have no idea about shai, but i know she is a wasted slot in pvp, so i support whatever you think makes you viable.

Last Edit : May 12, 2021, 12:58 (UTC)
# 8

Hello fellow shais!

I read through all the things quite quick so excuse me if im saying something that has been said already. 

I main shai with mainly a focus on pve atm. 

 

ENGELIS WISHES:
One-two-three - needs to get a bigger aoe at the end for pve. Once u cancel it the aoe is so TINY. My striker has bigger aoes. Remove that it doesnt do any damage infront of yourself aswell. (only does when u throw the florang) For pve we need something better. Perhaps make it a cone instead where the damage will hit. Another thing is that we suffer greatly from the florang going into the ground and doing no damage. Other classes struggle with this aswell. 

 

E-Buff - the SA is annoying. starts in the middle of the skill. Another thing change the animation. make it shorter. PLUS make it so my comrades dont have to stand shoulder to shoulder to me to recieve the E buff. Sometimes when people are like 2 shais away, they dont get the ebuff. Even when the animation shows a little orb going to them. its a lie! they dont get it! 

Get well - needs to just go out faster. Super annoying that u get cc'ed in the middle of it and it goes on CD, but u get no heal cause u get healed at the end of the skill.

 

Swimming on grindspots. do i need to say more?

 

Mobility - for the love of god just give us the boomerang glide from BDO mobile. We need more mobilty. For pvp and pve.

 

Tagging mobs - in pve its quite hard for us shais to tag mobs fast. When i grind with people in castle ruins i end up with less loot as i cant tag fast enough. Make it so debuffs tag mobs aswell as its technically "hitting" the mobs. Other issue here is that we dont have big aoes. Yes we can do bongos to help, which is what i do mostly. But sometimes when people get weapons and u are trying to constantly buff it gets hard. Plus swapping from Talent to main hand takes time. i cant remember but come out come out doesnt tag mobs either, and gather around doesnt tag aswell. 

 

The issue with how are we sopposed to defend our grind spots? I honestly dont know, so far i either swap channel or try to do my wombo combo and pray they are a gearlet. Its making me sad to grind on shai, cause literally every class gets more loot than we do. (there is exceptions for the few spots we are "good" in) I've resorted to having to tag another class to duel/grind the spots we suck at. 

 

 

 

 

Last Edit : May 12, 2021, 13:06 (UTC)
# 9

Those changes would be very nice, since eva meta is kinda dead with all those accuracy items, Shai needs some tweaking with her viability in PVP.

 More skills for her kit, wich suits her playstlye (support/tank) are very much appreciated. Not just for shai herself, no for everyone who are dedicated to play this class and for people who play NW/sieges aswell.

 

Im still a fan thinking about an actualy PVP awa rework, but im fine with all the support stuff she could get.

 

Pearl Abyss, please take this feedback above and use it, to make Shai an actual class.

 

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Lahvera
Last Edit : May 18, 2021, 07:38 (UTC)
# 10

Hmmm, it would be cool if they actually made shai's awak. like a Bard class...still providing buffs as heals for her allies and also debuffs enemies and giving her good movement and couple of dmg dealing skills. and probably making her succ spec more for dmg dealing? idk.. its a thought but you guys have cool ideas!

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