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Open World PvP! ( and saving BDO)
May 16, 2021, 09:57 (UTC)
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What you are asking for sounds very similar to Gear Bracket RBFs.

 

As for the rewards, that is way way too much.  Getting lucky with a Pen mainhand weapon would allow you to sell your current pen mainhand weapon thus making one lucky person get 12 billion as a rewards.  This would make the event mandatory for progression because the reward would be way too good.  If you give out account bound fallen god armor, that would be a 40 billion reward, which would be far far beyond stupid levels of a reward.


I don't know if you remember Shadow Arena, but that was considered to be problematic levels of a reward at 50m per hour pvping when average income was 60m an hour grinding, and you want to add something that is 10b to 40b per hour which is 30 times what the current best sustainable grind spot is of 300m per hour?

 

I don't think adding random spots that "function like nodewars" but are not node wars would be the same as Open World PvP.

 

As for the catchup mechanics, they tried that with seasons, the problem that happened was that since they gave away free Tet Cresent rings, people just tapped tet crescent rings and hundreds of pen cresent rings were made overnight.  These rings were not made by the people who had the rings to begin with, no they were made by siege guilds that bought up all the cheap tet crescents that went on the market and turned a massive profit, thus making those rich siege guilds even richer allowing them to push their gear even farther.  The seasonal "free" pen Capotia reward that was intended as a catchup mechanic, actually turbo boosted the gear gap that was already in place.

 

To be fair, accessory enhancing is already bad, and should be changed.  Accessories exploding on failure needs to be removed, they should instead down grade like armor/weapons do when failed, while also lowering the number of crons it takes to protect it and allowing it to not degrade with crons like armors.

 

As for your E-sports thing, they were talking about putting in a RBF style arena for 3v3, 10v10, and 3/10 man squad battles with 3-10 opponent teams.

 

Lastly no, BDO Is not almost a ded game, people have been saying BDO is going to die within a year since the day it launched, people have been saying that about just about every game that has come out, rarely are they correct if the game lasts beyond the first 2 years.

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Last Edit : May 16, 2021, 12:37 (UTC)
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You know instead of saving that which don't want to be saved. You could just do like many of us do. Put BDO in the tray after grinding for some time. Then go play a decent PvE oriented game with equalized skill-based PvP set up from the start. I think that is the more reasonable thing to do at this point.

 

BDO simple don't want to be saved. Because it makes massive amount of money from easy mode grind spot. That might take only one dev to develop it. Also that whole game is to support it's cash shop. By allowing people to spend as much or in some case more money then what a house cost to buy in-game PvP and PvE power.

 

If you want a game with content. Then you must go play a game that is based on selling you content, and not simple PvP and PvE power. If you want a MMO with decent inclusive PvP. Then you must go play a MMO that sells that content. Honestly I think you lot mistake with BDO is. Yesterday EU's Guardian and Wizard finials in that Arena of Arsha's Best in Class event should have made it clear! The game was built on the foundation that most low spenders and F2Pers are just punching bags for the whales.

 

You simply can't save that. Because it don't want to be saved. So you might as well just go play something else. When you want to play something with actual meaty content. Nor you or anyone else here is going to convince the Devs to save BDO. Might as well just ride the ride till it close down.

Last Edit : May 16, 2021, 12:48 (UTC)
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I wouldnt mind some rbf silver gains to be viable way to play the game :) 

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Last Edit : May 16, 2021, 14:15 (UTC)
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On: May 16, 2021, 12:48 (UTC), Written by Seeryus

 

 

I wouldnt mind some rbf silver gains to be viable way to play the game :) 

it should give you more silver based on your ranking, like 100k per win if you have 100k points

Last Edit : May 16, 2021, 14:36 (UTC)
# 6
On: May 16, 2021, 09:57 (UTC), Written by RandomHajile

BDO pvp could be esport level but it needs to be smaller scale, at least in some portion. 25x25 is more like a fps than an action rpg esport imo. You will find if you gear some of these kids so they can at least scratch the geared people, they will enjoy the game, and pvp won't be some way to cause people grief, but... a game design.

Yeah, sure, the game, where you can just use 3th party tools to gain advantage will be an esport game, LMAO, nice joke...

 

And even not looking at their "custom made" trash tier engine, surely, when there are classes that are pretty much unkillable by other classes, as the balance is so shit, it would be a very popular e-sport game... jk

 

bdo PvP is meme tier, it looks flashy, but after you levelup from being 9yo, you ain't getting hooked in from just that...

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Last Edit : May 16, 2021, 18:02 (UTC)
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On: May 16, 2021, 09:57 (UTC), Written by RandomHajile

BDO is dying... grave movie voice.

 

In a way, though, it is. Every game runs its course, and things get uneven. I'm pretty much a noob. I've seen enough. This is what I'd like to propose (although I don't have the full puzzle when it comes to implementation, and I don't know if this will even be read, or if it's in the wrong place.)

 

The first thing I'd like to say is people on this game are really, really uptight. PVP/Grief... outside of arsha, it seems like people are getting griefed by most encounters. They've got all of these etiquitte things which, mostly, benefit the geared people, and behind it is a system to where you can't really fight or continue to stay in the area or you end up negatively affecting their karma. OK Cool point, remember it.

 

Secondly is while I was roaming throughout the world and doing quests... I noticed that BDO IS A BIG OPEN WORLD GAME. Tons of environment. There are node wars, which are cool, there are world bosses, there are drop events, rework of pve, no dungeons to speak of YET, however... there are all of these great spots for laser tag level pvp. Open world semi-organic pvp that nobody is going to do because THERE IS LITTLE GAIN. We were all poking at each other on Starz Beach until Relevance came with like 10 people and stomped us out.

 

Cool stories aside, why don't they have some kind of a quasi node war, gear capped, and somehow reward the winner (this is the part I don't understand how to make work, who gets the winnings??) Basically have some pvp event, make it gear capped ( and fix crystal caps!) for certain places so everyone can get in, then when people perform well at pvp, GIVE THEM GEAR. Give them gear like up to TET access (season) and maybe a PEN MH once in awhile. Or PEN armor, or dead god, whatever. Except it's family bound. So, if you already got one, you don't get another. You can't sell it.

 

My reasoning is this... most BDO community is pvp adverse. Or at least the think pvp is not what it is. It's some compartmentalized thing. RBF is pvp, BA practice is pvp, node/siege is pvp... but when stuff goes down open world it's like AHHH. GRIEF! However, BDO pvp is one of the better parts of the game, esp if they balance it. It's gotta be a solid 6. There is a post on the main page that says stop telling people to quit bdo, but it's like also stop telling them to barter until they hit 261k.  We need to get these guys with oasis level gear GEARED so they can bang. We need to fundamentally change the wild of this game. Mechanics might need to change, too.

 

Still, some kind of a team v team fight or bring x max team size and free for all... with a more guaranteed reward so people will FIGHT FOR GEAR. Not for fame. I kind of wonder if people on BDO even like pvp mostly, other than crushing people out of their grind spots and calling them trash gearlets. But pvp is actually good when you get teams. Team pvp is muah. Obviously if everyone is rolling the same OP class it's stupid but... give us more ways to pvp, push us into pvp, this is how you will save BDO. THERE IS NO OTHER WAY. WORK ON IT.

 

BDO pvp could be esport level but it needs to be smaller scale, at least in some portion. 25x25 is more like a fps than an action rpg esport imo. You will find if you gear some of these kids so they can at least scratch the geared people, they will enjoy the game, and pvp won't be some way to cause people grief, but... a game design.

 

The balance in BDO is so bad that esports won't happen. For an esports to take place, there needs to be a semblance of balance.

Last Edit : May 16, 2021, 20:27 (UTC)
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The game is not dying,  take your depression pills OP.


Esport-ready mean absolutly nothing. There is no organization that certifies these debilities , stop inventing falsehoods about the industry.
esport-ready is bullshit marketing to attract your wallets.

Competition is competition, tournament are tournament,  The game dont have to change in any way. the same way that the RNG impact on Hearthstone don't disappear during esport tournament.

* esport-Ready * is a dumb myth that has no membranes.

We can compete for absolutely whatever.  there is even Dungeon and Dragons esport.  Competitive role playing... yes ^^

the game does not matter, as long as there is competition. At no time in human history has a competition been * Fair *. its never existed. even the olympics its a complete eugenics competition.

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