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Change World Boss Loot for AFK leeching players
May 19, 2021, 07:45 (UTC)
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# 21
On: May 19, 2021, 10:52 (UTC), Written by NeroSparda

People should already have alts though, thats the thing... Oasis gear exists for more than one reason, gear up an alt with oasis gear, with quest accessories, and ur at around 230 ap. No excuse to not participate. Its not a requirement for people to use ALTS, this is just a method to do if you don't wanna lose ur crystals. A lot of people just go on their mains, but many are on alts just sitting there watching, while everyone else is doing the work for them. 

 

Sadly they would never add a teleport option to the boss lol. 

 

Character slots were given out free during every new class up until the Mystic, so people should be full of them by now, unless they are new players, but even then you should have a few alt slots. 

I've played for almost a year and I think I only have 6 chars. And it was bought with pearls.

 

Another thing is, it takes way too much effort to do damage for 20-30 min every nightmare boss, just to get 10m trash loots tops. Nightmare box is a base box and everyone knows that now, thus nobody want to bother with 'normal' boss that takes 15 loading screen with risk of dc (which means no loot), takes far longer to kill, and have annoying asf location. The early nightmare bosses have people actually bringing their mains and everyone was waiting and doing damage to it. Now look at the guaranteed tc kutum, it never even died once. People just started to not bother with them because its just not worth the effort. You are almost guaranteed to lose crystals and exp/tears, rewards are exactly same as normal boss, fights take far longer, and the 'mechanic' is just huge range insta AOE one shot kill

 

I put one of my alt in nouver because I want to do garmoth heart questline, and I've noticed people actually fight the normal nouver more than the bullshi nouver. Everyone just stand around in BS nouver but in normal, they actually chase the nouver. Same with karanda and kzarka, people seem to attack more actively there when it was normal version. Only way to make special bosses have people hitting is if it either dies faster, or people are encouraged to hit it with big damage chars. Remember first nightmare kzarkas died within few seconds as people bring their mains? Nightmare nouver was too until people realize it is one shot fiesta and start losing like 200m+ worth of crystals just to get like 10m loot. Right now it dies far slower and it is understandable, people don't bother bringing mains anymore, thus it starts the negative cycle, boss dies slower, nobody wanna bring big damaging char, people start to just switch to alt last minute cos it takes forever, and soon nobody bothers anymore going like what happen to kutum.

Last Edit : May 19, 2021, 19:15 (UTC)
# 22
On: May 19, 2021, 16:59 (UTC), Written by Werbs

I think all 3 T4 pets were within the last year, weren't they?  

2020 wasn't even a year xD so probably LOL... It went by super fast 

Last Edit : May 19, 2021, 19:23 (UTC)
# 23
On: May 19, 2021, 17:18 (UTC), Written by Spartakatz

 

you already recognized what the problem are here. those bosses hit SO hard that people die even with their mains.

 

and if you take an alt there (~290-300dp) , every standard hit instant kills you, so there's no other choice than dashing in, do one hit and then try to escape fast enough without dying. it's plain impossible to fight those bosses with alts.

 

 

Its actually quite simple to stay alive even on the harder versions of the bosses... The main issue is so many people sit afk and block the active players causing them to die and lose crystals because they just body block... They really need to either fix the mechanics of the bosses and make drops only available to those who had an active part in beating the boss or remove the body block... 

 

My alt is a shai with 300 dp and I don't die xD unless its a bodyblock, so its possible, they added indicators for a reason, so people know when to go in and out. Its no ones fault of people don't wanna learn the mechanics. 

 

Bosses would take less time if more people would help instead of sitting on the sidelines. 

Last Edit : May 19, 2021, 19:24 (UTC)
# 24
On: May 19, 2021, 10:44 (UTC), Written by Gooyoung

If they wanna make people actually participate in it, they gotta drop the requirement for having a boss alt.

 

You cant just make reward damage scaling and punishing ppl who does minimum contribution as it would just be toxic mechanic and it would just annoy players.

 

Better suggestion would be to have a window on boss to insta teleport there with whatever char you have and where you will be sent back to original position like 5 min after boss dies. Add it with removing death penalty like crystal and exp like how vell does it. After that THEN you can add penalty for non contributor

 

Right now world boss is just a sham to sell char slots as it is 'compulsory' if you want to ever face the new bosses

 

 

I really like this idea. Make it like a node war teleport, and also remove crystal breakage from world bosses. Boom, istantly solve the problem of people AFK at world bosses, and it would make the boss die faster so you can get back to what you were doing too. The only issue would be if there is a double spawn.

Last Edit : May 19, 2021, 20:59 (UTC)
# 25

I literally only have 314 DP and 280AP and can survive easily at every one of these bosses. The bosses need to have a certain amount of damage you need to do to the boss to get loot. Considering these bosses were made for those who wanted a challenge. They should drop gear for those who have gear and want better gear. Up the droprates a little, Make it worth for high geared players to do said bosses. People who are low-geared can stick to regular bosses and wouldn't be able to do enough damage anyway to receive loot. Especially afkers.

 

Whats so wrong with a little gear progression incentive. Oh, I want better gear so I can do the harder boss and get better rewards. It could literally be the first system in the game which actually gives you a reason to gear for PvE as a sort of end goal. (sort of end goal).

 

There's an actual sense of trying aswell to learn the boss attacks. Die too much and you don't get loot, Do too little damage and you get no loot. It's an incentive to get better at the game in both aspects. 

 

Maybe even drop the crystal destruction until a certain amount of deaths and put spawn points closer.

 

This can literally be a first step to actual Progression PvE content. 

Last Edit : May 19, 2021, 23:39 (UTC)
# 26
On: May 19, 2021, 16:59 (UTC), Written by Werbs

I think all 3 T4 pets were within the last year, weren't they?  

You are correct. Receiving T4 pets for free is an extremely new thing.  100% agree with you on the afk situation too.  I  think PA made the right move allowing low damage players a shot at loot, but that shouldn't mean one tap on the boss gets you loot...instead of the other players who are actually contributing.  I like your ideas about requring at least recurring damage, over the course of the fight, dealt to the boss to receive loot. I'm also not a fan of certain bosses with their twitch (no warning) nukes.  The only one of those my alts still die to is TC Kutum. I'm one of those weirdos that likes killing bosses.  I like the new improved bosses, with better loot tables and better mechanics.  The two debuffs at TCK makes me actually pay attention. 

Last Edit : May 20, 2021, 06:15 (UTC)
# 27

Finish the pet topic! We are talking about free character slots.
I repeat: I NEVER GET ANYONE, EVEN FOR 1 LOYALTIES.

So stop this lying:

On: May 19, 2021, 10:52 (UTC), Written by NeroSparda

Character slots were given out free during every new class up until the Mystic, so people should be full of them by now, unless they are new players, but even then you should have a few alt slots. 

 

On: May 19, 2021, 18:17 (UTC), Written by Gooyoung

Another thing is, it takes way too much effort to do damage for 20-30 min every nightmare boss, just to get 10m trash loots tops. Nightmare box is a base box and everyone knows that now, 

Scam, nothing more.
First: a stronger boss must appear.
Second: you must be lucky and get a box (1% chance? or even less).

Third: you must be extreme lucky again and get pri-tet (0,001% chance?).
I never got, and I don't know anyone who got a box other than 0.
Pri-tet should be guaranteed, especially that boss weapon PRI and DUO they are nothing special, even TRI is easy and cheap to do, so only TET is worth something. So stronger box percentage chance should be pri 33%, duo 33%, tri 33% and tet 1%.

 

Last Edit : May 20, 2021, 07:36 (UTC)
# 28
On: May 20, 2021, 06:13 (UTC), Written by Senemedar

Finish the pet topic! We are talking about free character slots.
I repeat: I NEVER GET ANYONE, EVEN FOR 1 LOYALTIES.

So stop this lying:

 

Scam, nothing more.
First: a stronger boss must appear.
Second: you must be lucky and get a box (1% chance? or even less).

Third: you must be extreme lucky again and get pri-tet (0,001% chance?).
I never got, and I don't know anyone who got a box other than 0.
Pri-tet should be guaranteed, especially that boss weapon PRI and DUO they are nothing special, even TRI is easy and cheap to do, so only TET is worth something. So stronger box percentage chance should be pri 33%, duo 33%, tri 33% and tet 1%.

 

I have seen 2 streamers get Tet boxes, however I have yet to know anyone in game that has gotten tet boxes (Partner benefits?)

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Last Edit : May 20, 2021, 09:21 (UTC)
# 29

copy pasta from previous rant , regarding body blocking, cause lunch and cba to type it again

 

Character collision on boss fights : Beeing unable to move out of red zones ( specially on the revamped boss fights ), cause some1 decided that face tanking it was their make a wish , or is just AFK after tagging the boss ,hence we die on the spot with them , is stupid , remove char collision on a specific area during the boss encounter > enable it back after the boss is dead please.. while you are at it, dont let ppl that tagged and went afk for 15 mins get any loot as well, seeing ppl link their "oh i got box XYZ" after standing still on a hill and doing crap all, and you that used 20 elions to get shit done go home with a saphire and some mane just ads to salt to the wound... 

Last Edit : May 20, 2021, 09:30 (UTC)
# 30
On: May 19, 2021, 20:59 (UTC), Written by Hopebot

They should drop gear for those who have gear and want better gear.

LMAO, they drop basically trash, +0 gear for those who already have TET+ gear that's barely improvement.

The owerwhelming mayority (99%) of the players only log in to bosses for the free and quick loot, and noone care about fun/challenge/whatBSwasinthsitopic. If you would put the boss loot into the login rewards, and remove all the bosses, NOONE WOULD CARE. Heck the game would actually be better.

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