#Gameplay_General
Fundamental changes are needed to policing in BDO
May 27, 2021, 19:49 (UTC)
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Jun 8, 2021, 15:12 (UTC)
# 61
On: Jun 8, 2021, 02:49 (UTC), Written by NotFluke
Lowbies had nothing to do with the EXP loss being removed, lowbies literally had the least amount to worry about. The EXP loss was removed for the players who invested massive amounts of time in order to progress and thus had the most to lose. The scales are tilted in the favor of people like you, who can't seem to figure out how PvP actually works.
Sure, Jan. Lol. I was there, I read the reason from the developers. Lol the scales. If you can't do the time, don't do the crime. No one is forcing you to flag.
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Jun 8, 2021, 15:13 (UTC)
# 62
On: Jun 8, 2021, 02:50 (UTC), Written by NotFluke
You've said you died repeatedly, you brag about buying Elion's Tears of all things, LOL! If you weren't dying you wouldn't be using them. It doesn't matter if you were in any area first, it's not first come first serve, there's no line, LOL!
Show me where I said that I NEVER died. It's not uncommon to die when some entitled pkr comes up and attacks without warning. As far as first come, first serve, it's MY rule. I won't ever leave if I am there first, and there's nothing anyone can do about it. Neener neener
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Jun 8, 2021, 17:51 (UTC)
# 63
Karma bombing doesnt exist. If somebody consent to force pvp and kills people over and over again, its on him.
The choice of not enabling pvp if karma consuequences are not wanted to be dealt with is there.
There is no solution beucase there is no problem to solve in the first place.
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Jun 9, 2021, 01:28 (UTC)
# 64
On: Jun 8, 2021, 17:51 (UTC), Written by Jaxir
Karma bombing doesnt exist.
Demonstrably false. Here's how to test it / demonstrate that your assertion is false:
1) Go to Star's End main roto on normal channel. Make sure someone is already occupying it.
2) Hit the mobs directly in front of the person who was there first. The mobs they're about to get to in the rotation.
3) Ignore them completely. They likely will ask you to leave. Do not respond in any way, treat them as if they do not exist. Continue to hit the mobs, ignoring them completely.
4) If they PK you, ressurrect via Tear / Blessing or node manager respawn. Return to the same spot.
5) Repeat steps 1 - 4.
If Karma Bombing does not exist, then this should be totally socially acceptible in BDO, right? If there is no such thing as KB, then doing these 5 simple steps is totally acceptible, by BDO social norms. So do this, and let me know how it goes and how you feel about it after.
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Jun 9, 2021, 11:55 (UTC)
# 65
On: Jun 9, 2021, 01:28 (UTC), Written by PeaceInChaos
Demonstrably false. Here's how to test it / demonstrate that your assertion is false:
1) Go to Star's End main roto on normal channel. Make sure someone is already occupying it.
2) Hit the mobs directly in front of the person who was there first. The mobs they're about to get to in the rotation.
3) Ignore them completely. They likely will ask you to leave. Do not respond in any way, treat them as if they do not exist. Continue to hit the mobs, ignoring them completely.
4) If they PK you, ressurrect via Tear / Blessing or node manager respawn. Return to the same spot.
5) Repeat steps 1 - 4.
If Karma Bombing does not exist, then this should be totally socially acceptible in BDO, right? If there is no such thing as KB, then doing these 5 simple steps is totally acceptible, by BDO social norms. So do this, and let me know how it goes and how you feel about it after.
I do this often and I feel good about myself. Usually the red person leaves after few minutes. Not my fault they had to kill me over and over.
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Jun 9, 2021, 11:55 (UTC)
# 66
On: Jun 9, 2021, 01:28 (UTC), Written by PeaceInChaos
Demonstrably false. Here's how to test it / demonstrate that your assertion is false:
1) Go to Star's End main roto on normal channel. Make sure someone is already occupying it.
2) Hit the mobs directly in front of the person who was there first. The mobs they're about to get to in the rotation.
3) Ignore them completely. They likely will ask you to leave. Do not respond in any way, treat them as if they do not exist. Continue to hit the mobs, ignoring them completely.
4) If they PK you, ressurrect via Tear / Blessing or node manager respawn. Return to the same spot.
5) Repeat steps 1 - 4.
If Karma Bombing does not exist, then this should be totally socially acceptible in BDO, right? If there is no such thing as KB, then doing these 5 simple steps is totally acceptible, by BDO social norms. So do this, and let me know how it goes and how you feel about it after.
I do this often and I feel good about myself. Usually the red person leaves after few minutes. Not my fault they had to kill me over and over.
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Jun 9, 2021, 12:46 (UTC)
# 67
On: Jun 9, 2021, 01:28 (UTC), Written by PeaceInChaos
Demonstrably false. Here's how to test it / demonstrate that your assertion is false:
1) Go to Star's End main roto on normal channel. Make sure someone is already occupying it.
2) Hit the mobs directly in front of the person who was there first. The mobs they're about to get to in the rotation.
3) Ignore them completely. They likely will ask you to leave. Do not respond in any way, treat them as if they do not exist. Continue to hit the mobs, ignoring them completely.
4) If they PK you, ressurrect via Tear / Blessing or node manager respawn. Return to the same spot.
5) Repeat steps 1 - 4.
If Karma Bombing does not exist, then this should be totally socially acceptible in BDO, right? If there is no such thing as KB, then doing these 5 simple steps is totally acceptible, by BDO social norms. So do this, and let me know how it goes and how you feel about it after.
You imply its the players baiting fault if the one deciding to pk him enough time end to lose all karma ? 🤔
Are your really saying when someone bait you, you are not responsible for your own action ? I would sure have fun see that be tried in whatever rl trial.
What's also difficult to understand is : how do you end be -bothered- about losing all your karma if you know how the system work ? You dont complain having your hand burned if you let it in a fire, you are aware about what fire do.
Why its here different ? Or maybe you never remember what's the karma rules are, and you are each time -surprised- ?
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Jun 9, 2021, 13:55 (UTC)
# 68
On: Jun 9, 2021, 11:55 (UTC), Written by Jaxir
I do this often and I feel good about myself. Usually the red person leaves after few minutes. Not my fault they had to kill me over and over.
And here you prove the fault in the system, also thank you for admitting you are an exploiter.
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Jun 9, 2021, 14:27 (UTC)
# 69
On: Jun 9, 2021, 11:55 (UTC), Written by Jaxir
I do this often and I feel good about myself. Usually the red person leaves after few minutes. Not my fault they had to kill me over and over.
As long as you don't complain about getting mob fed, no problem.
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Jun 9, 2021, 15:10 (UTC)
# 70
On: May 27, 2021, 21:08 (UTC), Written by Senemedar
So why console verision don't have channel change cd as I read.
People who disagree with what I wrote just don't have ANY arguments. That's all.
These changes make everyone happy: people who don't want pvp don't have it, people who want pvp they have it and can't cry here on pseudo "karmabombing". Players do not interfere with each other because they can quickly change the place where they play.
These are the foundations for increasing playability and removing toxicity from the game
Don't have any Argument ? what a joke people are just tired of repeating the same things over and over again
On: May 27, 2021, 20:09 (UTC), Written by Senemedar
Yes we need fundamental changes:
1. Remove forced pvp (and simple add more arsha channels, 1 for each channels group (Velia, Balenos, etc.)
2. Remove channel change cd (more options to grind if spot is taken)
3. Add fast travel system to any node (blocked with trade items) (same as point 2, more options to grind if spot is taken).
Problem solved.
1. forced pvp is a tool to prevent Abuse, take one day on a PVE exclusive season server and see what happens Grief feast everywhere all day long
2. Remove channel change CD and what ? let player PK and channel hop at eternam unpunished ? Let griefer switch target freely each times they're griefed themselves or attacked by player that won't stand for it ?
3. Why ? traveling as been part of the charm of bdo since launch.. Or is it that you want people to be able to coordinate raid on others freely ?and go unpunishable ?
What about you change game ? if you want bdo to be like all those other generic mmp why don't you play them ?
Do I want Bdo to change for the better ? yes but I want to still play bdo and feel bdo otherwise I'd play something else
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