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No sane way to get PEN
Feb 26, 2021, 10:06 (UTC)
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Last Edit : Feb 27, 2021, 02:45 (UTC)
# 11
On: Feb 26, 2021, 10:06 (UTC), Written by Troll

I reached now full tet Armor/Weapon and Accessories. So guess that is what´s called softcap (?), and that in my opinion is the point of the beginning of the insane madness of that game here. Now i have to start gamble with mad changes of about 5% on Armor/Weapon, or about like 8% change for Accessories: so that just will fail, no doubt about it, and every time it fails it will cost so much, much silver = and that is the beginning of a circle of failing enhancement and farming silver just to fail again.

 

Changes of 5% / 10% is in my humble opinion a mad way to even think about starting to beginn with. Sure, there are people getting that things up to pen; because they take it seriously and farming/grinding die hard, and some other just happily spending their money, so they buying all day long costumes in the Item Shop and melt it to cron stones. Everyone should do what they enjoy, that's how I see it. So i'm really the last troll standing, who would condemn something like that.

Hi Troll.  PENs are at an all-time low right now in price.  It's super easy to get PEN now, you don't even need to mess with RNG for it.  For perspective, I went from full TET everything, like where you are now, to full PEN armor and weapons, full TET yellow accs with 2 TET Disto.  Got this in about 9 months or so last year, when PEN prices were more expensive than they are now.  What's the average price right now, like 16 bil?  When I was going for PEN, they were up to 18 bil +.  If I can do it anyone can.  The only benefit of enhancing your own is having your name on it and the pride it brings.  It could be cheaper or more expensive if you enhance, RNG is not really predictable.  If those emotional triggers mean less to you than pure performance, then do what I did.

 

Set a daily silver goal.  Baby steps, start with an easy 300 mil per day.  Two hours of active playtime a day, super easy if you got some time.  At 300 mil per day, which is honestly really low, you can get a PEN every month and a half.  Up that to 500 mil per day, you'll get a PEN every month.

 

You have a goal.  Now, to reach it, come up with a plan and stick to it.  Has never did me wrong, and I'm almost to my next goal, using this same strategy.  F luck.  Trust your own two hands.

Last Edit : Feb 27, 2021, 03:49 (UTC)
# 12

Am 26. Feb 2021, 10:06 (UTC), von Troll

I reached now full tet Armor/Weapon and Accessories. So guess that is what´s called softcap (?), and that in my opinion is the point of the beginning of the insane madness of that game here. Now i have to start gamble with mad changes of about 5% on Armor/Weapon, or about like 8% change for Accessories: so that just will fail, no doubt about it, and every time it fails it will cost so much, much silver = and that is the beginning of a circle of failing enhancement and farming silver just to fail again.

 

Changes of 5% / 10% is in my humble opinion a mad way to even think about starting to beginn with. Sure, there are people getting that things up to pen; because they take it seriously and farming/grinding die hard, and some other just happily spending their money, so they buying all day long costumes in the Item Shop and melt it to cron stones. Everyone should do what they enjoy, that's how I see it. So i'm really the last troll standing, who would condemn something like that.

GIT GUD!

 

I play since the first beta days, do I complain about my gear? Haha noes, It´s up to you how fast you reach PEN...

 

Oh and PEN? There´s nothing better than PEN, do you want that handed to you on a silver plate?

 

I sure don´t, I will buy my PEN´s if I feel I ever like it. (Yes kinda poor right now, but hey I´m lazy in BDO analways...)

 

I only enhance upt to TET ;) Ez game ez life.

 

One more thing to add:

 

This enhanceing system may have some flaws, but I ecountered far worse in numerous other MMO´s which were not only punishing, but back then there were no Failstacks like in BDO. I consider BDO´s gear threadmil as kind of forgiving if you aren´t stupid.

 

Oh & nobody can stop you to buy yourselves a sweet sweet PEN´s!

 

If you are on EU you can add me: "MinimalLeopardi" ;) hfgl all...

 

 

 

Last Edit : Feb 27, 2021, 04:42 (UTC)
# 13
On: Feb 26, 2021, 20:32 (UTC), Written by Altos

So who is making all these pens for us to buy?

There is an answer, but that doesn't matter because PENs sit and those that don't will have preorders filled in a reasonable time. Useless argument point.

Last Edit : Feb 27, 2021, 05:29 (UTC)
# 14
Écrit le : 26 févr. 2021, 20:32 (UTC), par : Altos

So who is making all these pens for us to buy?

 

BDO vets have plenty of ressources to produce PENs through upgrades without needing to spend a single cent.

Last Edit : Feb 27, 2021, 09:20 (UTC)
# 15

I think many of you dont get the dilemma that not all people can nolife every day to play this game with a purpose of maybe getting PENs if RNG doesnt take a dump on you, which it often times does.
Theres a lot of people who work irl and do a lot of other stuff that anyone else does.  Though lets be honest - a ton of full PENers definetly arent working class people as anyone in that category doesnt have a lot of free time to put into this game.

I myself am taking the causal semi to full afk route (slaves, imperial, rewards) to get money, eventhough that is also very slow to get progress compared to someone who can toss over 5 hours a day into grinding.

Personally i hate it that i have to go through this RNG -passive afk circus just to get into PvP. Not long ago there was some clown at bloodwolves (was grinding for pot piece) who wanted my spot and he just obliterated me. Eventhough i constantly got the first CC, knocking his ass on the floor, i literally did wet noodle damage to him cause hey, gear over skill amirite (am on soft cap gear).

Last Edit : Feb 27, 2021, 10:31 (UTC)
# 16
On: Feb 27, 2021, 09:18 (UTC), Written by Arctisavange

I think many of you dont get the dilemma that not all people can nolife every day to play this game with a purpose of maybe getting PENs if RNG doesnt take a dump on you, which it often times does.
Theres a lot of people who work irl and do a lot of other stuff that anyone else does.  Though lets be honest - a ton of full PENers definetly arent working class people as anyone in that category doesnt have a lot of free time to put into this game.

I myself am taking the causal semi to full afk route (slaves, imperial, rewards) to get money, eventhough that is also very slow to get progress compared to someone who can toss over 5 hours a day into grinding.

Personally i hate it that i have to go through this RNG -passive afk circus just to get into PvP. Not long ago there was some clown at bloodwolves (was grinding for pot piece) who wanted my spot and he just obliterated me. Eventhough i constantly got the first CC, knocking his ass on the floor, i literally did wet noodle damage to him cause hey, gear over skill amirite (am on soft cap gear).

 

So what you're saying is you want gear without working for it? I mean if that is what you're saying then the conversation is done.

Last Edit : Feb 27, 2021, 10:58 (UTC)
# 17
On: Feb 27, 2021, 10:31 (UTC), Written by asdsadfas

So what you're saying is you want gear without working for it? I mean if that is what you're saying then the conversation is done.


What you said may make sense in other MMOs cause in there time spent = guaranteed or almost guaranteed progress in terms of gearing. But in the context of BDO, it makes 0 sense as in here, time spent = RNG progression with guaranteed gearing deprogression along the way.

So can you actually call it "getting gear without work" when the entire gearing progress around here works around RNG with failure to upgrade = downgrading?

Now dont get me wrong, obviously time spent should also be rewarded accordingly but in this game, due to what i typed previously, eeeeh, doesnt seem like it.

Anyway this goes back to the same old opinion that people have had for years - remove the asian love for RNG culture from BDO and this game would be perfect. Cause lets be honest- almost everyone who plays or has played strictly left the game cause time spent doesnt = the deserved reward due to how the gear progression system is.

Tho to be fair, compared to how it was years ago, the progress in gearing is far far more better (bless you seasonal shiz) in terms of reaching soft cap. Tho it still does suck a lot that hard cap complitely wipes the floor with soft cap.
But yeah in my opinion skill should allways outweigh gear no matter what game you play.

Last Edit : Feb 27, 2021, 11:19 (UTC)
# 18
On: Feb 27, 2021, 10:51 (UTC), Written by Arctisavange


What you said may make sense in other MMOs cause in there time spent = guaranteed or almost guaranteed progress in terms of gearing. But in the context of BDO, it makes 0 sense as in here, time spent = RNG progression with guaranteed gearing deprogression along the way.

So can you actually call it "getting gear without work" when the entire gearing progress around here works around RNG with failure to upgrade = downgrading?

Now dont get me wrong, obviously time spent should also be rewarded accordingly but in this game, due to what i typed previously, eeeeh, doesnt seem like it.

Anyway this goes back to the same old opinion that people have had for years - remove the asian love for RNG culture from BDO and this game would be perfect. Cause lets be honest- almost everyone who plays or has played strictly left the game cause time spent doesnt = the deserved reward due to how the gear progression system is.

Tho to be fair, compared to how it was years ago, the progress in gearing is far far more better (bless you seasonal shiz) in terms of reaching soft cap. Tho it still does suck a lot that hard cap complitely wipes the floor with soft cap.
But yeah in my opinion skill should allways outweigh gear no matter what game you play.

 

except you're conpletely wrong. the longer you play the game as long as you're playing it right the more gear you will have. there is guaranteed gain if you put time into it.

 

Skill over gear is an entire different conversation, and you devolved your entire argument back to the rng aspect without regarding the fact that more than a several people have already pointed out that you can just buy including yourself but don't want to dedicate the time to it.

 

so which is it?

 

you don't want to play the rng game? the markets right there for you. 

 

you wanr gear but don't want to put in the effort? well you don't deserve it.

 

the game is too hard/time consuming for you? find a more casual game

 

your argument would've held if it was 2 years prior, but with the current state of the market and how silver per hour has creeped drastically over the years, its very simple to get gear now.

 

 

Last Edit : Feb 27, 2021, 11:31 (UTC)
# 19
On: Feb 27, 2021, 10:51 (UTC), Written by Arctisavange


What you said may make sense in other MMOs cause in there time spent = guaranteed or almost guaranteed progress in terms of gearing. But in the context of BDO, it makes 0 sense as in here, time spent = RNG progression with guaranteed gearing deprogression along the way.


There is this crazy feature called "Central Market" where u can buy items with silver u will obtain from playing / spending time in the game. It also has this nice side effect of 0 RNG. I know its hard to grasp for people who hate on the enhancing system all the time but u really dont have to enhance. Everything is buyable. 

Last Edit : Feb 27, 2021, 13:31 (UTC)
# 20

ive managed to get to get Pen dande, kzarka, and dim tree aswell as tet blackstarm (enhanced) in around 4 months, just saving my money, daily crates . Grinding and liquidating everything i dont need in order to grind. Its not really that bad when you consider you can make in excess of half a billion a day relativly easily. if you also have spare boss peice to enahcne and sell when they go tet you can make billions a day faily simply. i know the latter revolves around RNG but it will happen eventuall

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