https://youtu.be/3SDoIc1eNA0



the Executive Producer of Black Desert Online. Word.


Your * Because basic math shows that the class is not a life skill character. 4 skills out of roughly 40 skills does not make it a life skill class. *
Is a bias point of view.  Devs intent to make the classe a Support classe, not a martian classe.

The executive director clearly highlighted the Lifeskill aspect in the 2e strong points of the class. If the Shai should receive a buff. it is in this department that is clearly lacking.

It's the devs who decide, it's the devs who design. the words of the devs are the intentions. And it is on these words that the classes should be highlighted.

Otherwise, you might as well do as the * players * want. Go remove the pvp skill damage reduction from the shai. Give it an AOE grab and reduce Hop's cooldown to 1 Sec. Increase the range of Bongos by 10 meter.

And why not release a real awakening weapon.  Go give to the Shai a Assault Rifle


Welcome to the Shai meta.

No its not a biased point, its a logical point. Once again four skills, all which are passive and all have no affect on their game play already tells you everything you need to know. I agree that devs "intended" to make a support class. They did not intend on making a "life skill" class. If they did then the vast majority of shai's skills would be life skill focused. AND like everyone else you forget another important part, that her life skill passives only affect two life skills. Gathering and Alchemy. Don't you think if they intended for her to be a life skill class that she would have passives for every life skill instead of two?

If you look at the passive skills for the latest classes they all follow a theme. Sage passives are based upon his knowledge, which is why he can unlock akman without a key. Hashashin is a desert warrior so one of his passives allow him to run through the sand without consuming stamina, Shai's "life skill" passives have to do with her origin in florin which is a gathering and alchemist oriented village. So shai has them for the same reason the other new classes have theirs: character lore. 

I have read the whole thread, and your refusal to accept the facts does not change that. You even admit im technically right. The reason shais are not good at the offensive part of the game is because they are absolutely CRACKED defensively. Their buffs are extremely strong, and shai is definitely not more work for less reward considering the impact they have in group fights. The Sol is a problem, and should be taggable/tradeable. However that does not mean the cost is inherently higher as noone is forcing you to have 2 sets, and you can cron the sol for the same cost as a dandelion.

Why even make a post if you refuse to think for yourself? The class does not NEED two distinct sets. Shais with high AP actually hit extremely hard, and while you can't directly see it, do tons of damage to structures and armor durability because they have so many hits. Shais almsot always go DP for pvp because of the simple matter of them being FAR tankier than any other class, a shai that stands still will generally not die unless a dozen or more people are on them. I have personally witnessed a shai standing RIGHT NEXT TO ME with the exact same gear as me shrug off concentrated damage that killed me and she escaped with half her health. While everyone may be tankiER with a DP set, there are much different elvels of tanky, with some classes being extremely effective with DP(such as shai and striker) while it just isnt worth it on others(such as DK or ranger). You are complaining about an invented issue. The class is insanely good at this one thing, of course they are going to be less effective at the rest of the game, that is how it should be.

I get really sick of people like you telling people that their class needs to be good at everything, when there are some classes that arent even average, let alone good, at even ONE thing. When was the last time you genuinely saw more than one tamer? or kuno? These classes are heavily oershadowed, and here you are complaining about a class that has the potential to be the tankiest thing on the battlefield while heavily buffing theirallies and debuffing enemies.

I'm sick of people like you who don't even main the class coming along to shoot down what players who do main shai have to say. 

If you actually played the class, then you would know right away that "AP and damage" in pvp isn't the reason why shai can't do a AP build in pvp. The real reason is because all of her offensive skills are unprotected so she will never ever do damage to player engaging her. The second thing is that all of her skills are slow and require the enemy to just stand there for her to do damage. That isn't realistic. Her offensive build is clearly created for pve not pvp.

But who cares? Players who play the class are for the most part fine with shai not doing damage in pvp. The problem is because the polarized nature of the class that you need two sets for the game. There is no "choice" about it. Its very simple if you pve you need a ap gear. If you pvp you need dp gear. Its that simple. I don't give a crap about tamer, or kuno, if you do go make another thread about them. This thread is about a suggestion for shai from a player who....plays shai. 

And btw I never said the class has to be good at everything, stop it with the bull shit. I agree with the OP that its a problem that the class needs two different sets and that its not fair.

And it is impossible to fix without making the character completely broken,  reason why I do not believe you on this intention was not to want to make the class completely OP.
Like a AP buff that scale with your DP, or DP buff that scale with your AP.

If you want to make Shai viable in pvp in AP gear. You have no choice but to remove the pvp damage reduction.  or to give a DP buff which will cause a problem equivalent to the second scenario below.
If you give them PVE AP in full DP Gear you will end up with an unstoppable Shai meta that will destroy the structures extremely effectively in node wars/siege.

Reason why in the ideal it's must be to compensate elsewhere.

the reason for my suggestion of 150 Mastery. A 60 billion value passive.

There are downsides to every class. in a truly balanced game.

All they have to do is give them a toogle that increases their AP at the cost of DP or increases their AP at the cost of DP. There would have to be a trade off. For example the toggle gives +150 DP but - 150 AP etc.  Another possible solution would be to give them a skill that increases monster damage based upon a % of their DP. I believe L2 healers eventually got stance skills so they could solo better without having to get mage gear. A concept similar to that would work.

I honestly do not care for a second what you are sick of. My opinion is jsut as valid as anyone else's, even moreso considering you so easily brush away any suggestion at considering the state of classes that have it far worse. Guess what buddy. Shai does not NEED a DP set. She performs best with it, yes, but as YoFamSteve learned, a shai with 277 AP avtually hits pretty damn hard. You are crying for an improvement that would MAKE shai one of the best at everything, so yes you certainly did ask for that. so how about you be the one to stop the bullshit, hmm?

Firstly if you main shai your opinion is valid, if you dont shut up. you have no place to talk. ever.

If you have tried to apply for a t2+ node wars guild ever, you would have the requirement for DP set.

Even if that is not the developers intention, its a MMO the community is the game! 

If the devs dont understand the community, well. thats the reason they lost alot of ppl all the time.

Anyways the requirement of having a AP and DP set is something that the community required.

If you play an mmo and want to do high end content, including group pvp, do you play with people or solo?

Back to the original point, based on the high end content in the game at the moment Shai is the most expensive character, with the weakest build.

Again white knights cannot say it is not true.

And as I said even if u dont get a second Ap set for grinding, then u need one for Lifeskilling to get the money in...and if u want to make nearly around the money grinders do, you need a shitton of Mastery. So high levels and gear also you will get an energy problem if you dont pay for energy.

And lets be real here....yes, shai was designed as a more lifeskill focused class in the beginning, but since then they changed that a lot. We got more combat skills, buffs for pve and pvp, never for lifeskills. The Lifeskillbuffs we get are insignivivcat and shai for gathering kinda mediocore anyway and gives nothing for alchemy that would push alchemy that much.

And tbh like all groupgrindspots are designed that way, that shai has a big impact and is higly wanted there, even with lower ap. In the Dungeon she might be one of the best classes to take with you adn in the beginning she was the best grindclass in Sycria. All her ad-ons are combat related (the old and new ones) and the old ones even gave us way better buffs against monsters, and nothing for lifskilling. They changed the donkey shit, so we are able to ride horses to war and get it out in Nodewars...

Whatever the plan for shai at her release was, it failed and she now is a pretty normal class, just with the disabilty to do much dmg, if u are not super high ap. (I mean there are some succesful AP pvp shais but they are super good geared and skillfull)

As for pvp, there is like no seeting where you can actual go into a fight with ap gear, you are only usefull with dp gear, cause o our combat abbilities we would die to fast to get buffs and debuffs out.

So at least u are forced to have 2 gearsets, if not 3. 

Sol thing, yes is bullshit.

Rest is made up bullshit, your guildies tell you, you either dp shai or other character has nothing to do with devs fixing a class.