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Fundamental problems with Karma Servers.
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# 411
On: Jun 22, 2021, 10:41 (UTC), Written by IWalkAlone

So much truth here. And add the fact that today gamers even complain when die in PvE death and loose some xp or crystals...

Its so easy to fix karmabombing, if it was 10 -15 years ago. But today with all this complains I personaly losing hope.

lol.  They had penalties for wanton pk years ago too.  Remember EvE.  I was there.  Play another game if you want free for all, no punishment pk action.  Or FPS games

Last Edit : Jun 22, 2021, 16:10 (UTC)
# 412
On: Jun 22, 2021, 12:00 (UTC), Written by Sadalsuud

 

https://web.archive.org/web/20201112013248/https://community.blackdesertonline.com/index.php?threads/word-from-the-developers-about-pvp.504526/

 

As I was the one posting it last time, it was easier for me to find it through the wayback machine, still it was not an easy task on my smartphone!

 

"We will also think of improvements to prevent issues such as Karma Bombing which take advantage of the current system's weaknesses." 

 

Thus the reason why we are simply saying that Devs acknowledged it. Nothing more, but proven. 

 

Lol.  That's meaningless.  They didn't describe what "issues" they saw, and they clearly weren't important enough.  I think the sheriff/bounty system is their answer....e.g the "issue" was that pk didn't have sufficient consequences.  ENJOY!

Last Edit : Jun 22, 2021, 16:13 (UTC)
# 413

From the same link:  The Arsha server shows our intended direction of BDO: "A content for only those who are prepared", not a place where "prepared adventurers grief those who are not prepared.''   So go to Arsha!

Last Edit : Jun 22, 2021, 16:23 (UTC)
# 414
On: Jun 22, 2021, 12:00 (UTC), Written by Sadalsuud

 

https://web.archive.org/web/20201112013248/https://community.blackdesertonline.com/index.php?threads/word-from-the-developers-about-pvp.504526/

 

As I was the one posting it last time, it was easier for me to find it through the wayback machine, still it was not an easy task on my smartphone!

 

"We will also think of improvements to prevent issues such as Karma Bombing which take advantage of the current system's weaknesses." 

 

Thus the reason why we are simply saying that Devs acknowledged it. Nothing more, but proven. 

 

Lol that a 3 year old source posted by a Kakao employee, Kakao not even affiliated with the game anymore they aren't devs for BDO so no the devs aren't acknowledging this is a issue, cause simply put because it isn't an issue.

 

The only people who have a problem with the current system are you same 🤡s that have admitted that you go into an already contested rotation rather look for an open non contested one (which no one has an issue doing, I grind Orc 1-3 hours a day have never failed to find an open rotation ever), than you demand the person who was already there to leave because you say so.

 

An lol PA sees no issue with the current system, thus the reason they're now punishing guilds for decing other guilds who don't dec back, and why they said they are thinking of punishing players who flag up to grief (like u 🤡s do) further.

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Last Edit : Jun 22, 2021, 16:48 (UTC)
# 415
On: Jun 22, 2021, 16:23 (UTC), Written by Vulpin

Lol that a 3 year old source posted by a Kakao employee, Kakao not even affiliated with the game anymore they aren't devs for BDO so no the devs aren't acknowledging this is a issue, cause simply put because it isn't an issue.

They have nothing else to hold on to. That's their very last piece of pseudo -but but but but the devs are with us-

While the reality is : PA dont care about them, and cant care about karmabombing as its doesn't exist, and they keep not care to this days : proof : Heidel Ball.

 

Yet they will keep victimize themself with one sided coin story no one will buy just to try to create a changement. Thing they still dont get, as its the same 3-4 person doing that, and thoses person are not even a drop in the BDO worldwide player base ocean.

On: Jun 22, 2021, 16:23 (UTC), Written by Vulpin

The only people who have a problem with the current system are you same 🤡s that have admitted that you go into an already contested rotation rather look for an open non contested one (which no one has an issue doing, I grind Orc 1-3 hours a day have never failed to find an open rotation ever), than you demand the person who was already there to leave because you say so.

 

An lol PA sees no issue with the current system, thus the reason they're now punishing guilds for decing other guilds who don't dec back, and why they said they are thinking of punishing players who flag up to grief (like u 🤡s do) further.

Thread ended with devs action, opinion, and choice. They disagree with the same 3-4 person here bashing the same 😴 one sided coin story, they are taking the opposite path of what thoses guys are dying for. Case closed. 

Either they deal with it

Either they play another game.

Last Edit : Jun 22, 2021, 17:09 (UTC)
# 416
On: Jun 22, 2021, 16:23 (UTC), Written by Vulpin

Lol that a 3 year old source posted by a Kakao employee, Kakao not even affiliated with the game anymore they aren't devs for BDO so no the devs aren't acknowledging this is a issue, cause simply put because it isn't an issue.

 

The only people who have a problem with the current system are you same 🤡s that have admitted that you go into an already contested rotation rather look for an open non contested one (which no one has an issue doing, I grind Orc 1-3 hours a day have never failed to find an open rotation ever), than you demand the person who was already there to leave because you say so.

 

An lol PA sees no issue with the current system, thus the reason they're now punishing guilds for decing other guilds who don't dec back, and why they said they are thinking of punishing players who flag up to grief (like u 🤡s do) further.

Wait!  That was from Kakao!  HAHAHAHAHA.  Priceless!

Last Edit : Jun 22, 2021, 17:48 (UTC)
# 417
On: Jun 22, 2021, 16:09 (UTC), Written by Columba

lol.  They had penalties for wanton pk years ago too.  Remember EvE.  I was there.  Play another game if you want free for all, no punishment pk action.  Or FPS games

But we don't want a FFA game. Or we would be on Arsha.

 

On: Jun 22, 2021, 16:13 (UTC), Written by Columba

From the same link:  The Arsha server shows our intended direction of BDO: "A content for only those who are prepared", not a place where "prepared adventurers grief those who are not prepared.''   So go to Arsha!

Check above. 

 

On: Jun 22, 2021, 16:23 (UTC), Written by Vulpin

Lol that a 3 year old source posted by a Kakao employee, Kakao not even affiliated with the game anymore they aren't devs for BDO so no the devs aren't acknowledging this is a issue, cause simply put because it isn't an issue.

 

The only people who have a problem with the current system are you same 🤡s that have admitted that you go into an already contested rotation rather look for an open non contested one (which no one has an issue doing, I grind Orc 1-3 hours a day have never failed to find an open rotation ever), than you demand the person who was already there to leave because you say so.

 

An lol PA sees no issue with the current system, thus the reason they're now punishing guilds for decing other guilds who don't dec back, and why they said they are thinking of punishing players who flag up to grief (like u 🤡s do) further.

The message was posted by a legimate CM at the moment, and it was devs' words.

100% OK as a reference.

 

And they will also remove the protection given to some guilds.

 

On: Jun 22, 2021, 16:35 (UTC), Written by Unknownn

They have nothing else to hold on to. That's their very last piece of pseudo -but but but but the devs are with us-

While the reality is : PA dont care about them, and cant care about karmabombing as its doesn't exist, and they keep not care to this days : proof : Heidel Ball.

 

Yet they will keep victimize themself with one sided coin story no one will buy just to try to create a changement. Thing they still dont get, as its the same 3-4 person doing that, and thoses person are not even a drop in the BDO worldwide player base ocean.

Thread ended with devs action, opinion, and choice. They disagree with the same 3-4 person here bashing the same 😴 one sided coin story, they are taking the opposite path of what thoses guys are dying for. Case closed. 

Either they deal with it

Either they play another game.

Perfect logic, perfect timing for our suggestion : should you really care about this if you're so confident?

 

On: Jun 22, 2021, 17:09 (UTC), Written by Columba

Wait!  That was from Kakao!  HAHAHAHAHA.  Priceless!

That was from devs. Mouahahaha. 

Last Edit : Jun 22, 2021, 18:08 (UTC)
# 418
On: Jun 22, 2021, 17:47 (UTC), Written by Sadalsuud

The message was posted by a legimate CM at the moment, and it was devs' words.

100% OK as a reference.. 

Alright with this logic let me go ask Bungie why 343 Industries keeps using master chef as the main character, despite Bungie saying Halo 3 was going to be the last Halo game to ever even feature master cheif. I mean surely Bungie knows why a completely different company went back on Bungie's word when they sold the Halo IP to them years ago. I mean really how dare Bungie lie to us aabout the future of an IP they no longer own the rights too.

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Last Edit : Jun 22, 2021, 18:06 (UTC)
# 419

Karma won't change. Just deal with it like you have been for all these years.

Last Edit : Jun 22, 2021, 18:10 (UTC)
# 420
On: Jun 22, 2021, 18:01 (UTC), Written by Vulpin

Alright with this logic let me go ask Bungie why 343 Industries keeps using master chef as the main character, despite Bungie saying Halo 3 was going to be the last Halo game to ever even feature master cheif. I mean surely Bungie knows why a completely different company went back on Bungie's word when they sold the Halo IP to them years ago. I really mean how dare Bungie lie to us about an IP they no longer own the rights too.

You really don't know the goal of the Internet Archive and its wayback machine, right?

Can you even access the former forums managed by Kakao? ^^

On: Jun 22, 2021, 18:06 (UTC), Written by MaxChestSlider

Karma won't change. Just deal with it like you have been for all these years.

Did we ask for a karma change? ^^
 

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